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1 year after officer tackled him, man is bedridden, wife is caretaker
Seattle Times ^ | 16 May 10 | Sara Jean Green

Posted on 05/29/2010 10:19:58 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: EAGLE7

You’re just proving what a thug you are.


41 posted on 05/29/2010 11:54:55 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EAGLE7
At least you are man enough to admit you don’t know then. Apology accepted.
42 posted on 05/29/2010 11:56:32 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I’m sorry, I should rephrase....Policing the Civilians of a city based on different standards and tactics from that of a Military Cop policing their own is quite different.

Also, being an Insurance DEFENSE Investigator is absolutely different from having to approach and confront SUSPECTS UNKNOWN (which this guy was) and having to make split second decisions.


43 posted on 05/29/2010 11:57:30 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Drew68
A young man wrongly identified by a witness as a participant in a bar brawl flees from fatigue-clad cops

That's an outright lie by the reporter. The video clearly shows the officers were wearing common police officer uniforms with their badges clearly visible on their chests and insignias on their sleeves, and gun belts around their waists.

The guy was clearly running from them, dropped something from his hand, moved toward the cop, and raised his hands toward the cop before he was knocked down. It's tragic that he chose to run, was positioned where he was relative to the wall, and that he was misidentified. None of which was the cop's fault.

45 posted on 05/29/2010 11:59:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: starlifter

That was cute but offers no insight or aid on this topic.


46 posted on 05/29/2010 11:59:30 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Moonman62

“None of which was the cop’s fault”? So who slammed the guy’s haed against the wall?


48 posted on 05/29/2010 12:02:07 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EAGLE7
"Policing the Civilians of a city based on different standards and tactics from that of a Military Cop policing their own is quite different."

True enough...but the LE mission on post also results in the policing of civilian dependents, contractors, etc., so similar, if not identical rules apply in a lot of cases. The biggest difference I see is the Military Police are held far more accountable for their actions than their civilian counterparts.

"Also, being an Insurance DEFENSE Investigator is absolutely different from having to approach and confront SUSPECTS UNKNOWN (which this guy was) and having to make split second decisions."

You miss my point. Certainly the investigations I do now are on the behalf of municipalities (and their insurers if not self-insured) when allegations of misconduct are levelled at them. I work in defense of the cities, the attorneys representing them, and by extension the police departments. My point is, in order to help defend these cases, I have to be pretty familiar with the policies, procedures, statues, regulations, ordinances, etc. governing the use of force.

50 posted on 05/29/2010 12:04:05 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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I don’t know, but I think this cop was out of control and if he’d been working for me, he wouldn’t be working for me any longer.

How would you defend yourself in the wrongful termination lawsuit?

51 posted on 05/29/2010 12:05:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sorry, I did misinterpret what you meant by ‘Defense’.


52 posted on 05/29/2010 12:05:58 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Moonman62

I’d show the jury the video of the “wrongfully terminated” cop smashing the innocent bystander into a cement wall.


53 posted on 05/29/2010 12:08:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EAGLE7
Policing the Civilians of a city based on different standards and tactics from that of a Military Cop policing their own is quite different.

Having dealt with MPs and civilian police, my understanding is that MPs have a good deal MORE latitude in dealing with suspects as compared to civilian police.

If an MP commander says it's over the line for MPs, it's WAY over the line for civilian police.

54 posted on 05/29/2010 12:08:35 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Moonman62
"How would you defend yourself in the wrongful termination lawsuit?"

That's funny...none of the MPs I got rid of ever mounted one. You'd think the thought would have occurred to them with all that free time on their hands at Leavenworth.

55 posted on 05/29/2010 12:09:28 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: EAGLE7
Gee thanks.
56 posted on 05/29/2010 12:10:04 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Moonman62
The guy was clearly running from them, dropped something from his hand, moved toward the cop, and raised his hands toward the cop before he was knocked down. It's tragic that he chose to run, was positioned where he was relative to the wall, and that he was misidentified. None of which was the cop's fault.

That is just low.

Everyone here can view the video and the only people who see the the kid as a danger are the cop groupies. The US is turning into a police state and you idiots are cheering it on.

57 posted on 05/29/2010 12:11:08 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: ozzymandus

To the police officer, he was a fleeing felon, and not only is he allowed by law to use force to subdue him, but he is expected to do so.


58 posted on 05/29/2010 12:11:33 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: EAGLE7
" how about giving Cops the benefit of the doubt for a change instead of pre judging them?"

How about not. We have all seen or experienced these Rambo wanna-bes hopped up on steroids, testosterone, Redbull and KrispeKremes running aorund in paramilitary attire with assault weapons but know they are all too chickensh!t to have actually kicked in doors in Fallujah. When these guys admit that their first priority is to serve and protect in stead of the union line about "officer safety" being paramount and begin to look and act like the term innocent until proven guilty is meaningful I will continue to look at them like strange pit bulls off the leash.

59 posted on 05/29/2010 12:12:57 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Drew68

Fumb-ducker ran from the police. Fatigue clad should have been enough of a hint, unless you are blind drunk. The bar patrons weren’t fatigue clad, were they. Did he ever think about staying there like a citizen? Personal responsibility and citizen duty are no longer part of the progressive culture. I have to wonder exactly what crime he was committing that made him decide to avoid the police.


60 posted on 05/29/2010 12:13:43 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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