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Gun Control Advocates Make up Facts about Concealed Handgun Laws
Big Government ^ | July 25, 2010 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 07/25/2010 8:23:04 PM PDT by JohnRLott

People walking the streets armed with guns must be dangerous, right? The Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center keep claiming that even those individuals who have legally obtained permits to carry concealed handguns are extremely dangerous. With millions of Americans already having been issued such permits from the various states, this is an important issue.

The gun control organizations have frequently made these claims in the press. The Associated Press articles by Erik Schelzig and by Jim Abrams have given extensive, uncritical coverage. Members of the gun control organizations have made these claims unchallenged on such places as Fox News and on the Huffington Post. But the gun control advocates inaccurately describe many shooting cases, choosing to ignore that the majority of incidents involve people properly defending themselves.

Over the past three years, the number of active permit holders in the United States has gone from about 5 million to more than 6.2 million today. The numbers issued by the state regulatory agencies show time after time that these permit holders abide by the law. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; bradycampaign; concealedhandgun; violencepolicycenter

1 posted on 07/25/2010 8:23:08 PM PDT by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott

If that were true with all those guns, there would be massacres of hundreds of thousands. I have a gun and it has yet to leap from my hands and attack innocent people. What a pack of bastards!


2 posted on 07/25/2010 8:28:12 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: JohnRLott

Most states now have some form of ccw permits. I believe Florida was the 1st. The anti’s said there would be blood in the streets, OK Corral, bodies stacked like cordwood........... They repeated this dribble every time another state voted to allow ccws. They trot this trype out on every gun control issue and the MSM repeats it every time just as if it were new.


3 posted on 07/25/2010 8:30:37 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: JohnRLott

Lying, for Liberals and Muslims, is perfectly acceptable behavior in pursuit of their “noble” ends.


4 posted on 07/25/2010 8:32:32 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: JohnRLott
You don't need a permit to buy, own or carry a gun. You just need one to buy, own or carry one LAWFULLY in SOME AREAS of the country.

Thinking that these laws keep us safer is nonsense. Just look at DC -- toughest gun laws; worst gun violence record.

But thinking that permits and licensing might increase the number of bad guys with guys is just plain stupid.

5 posted on 07/25/2010 8:34:07 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: umgud
Florida was not the first, they were among the first to have a "stand your ground" policy and to have "Shall" issue instead of "May" issue, but not the first to have CCWs. The other states you are talking about are the other 30 or so states that now have Shall issue as opposed to May issue.

But, yes, you are correct that every time a state went to Shall issue the left predicted a blood bath and it hasn't happened yet, in fact the states with the most lenient gun laws usually have the lowest crime rates.

6 posted on 07/25/2010 8:36:42 PM PDT by calex59
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To: JohnRLott

John, if this is actually THE John Lott, you have made a huge difference over the years. I, for one, am deeply grateful.


7 posted on 07/25/2010 8:36:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: JohnRLott

Last year there was a very well written article that dove into the crime stats reported by the FBI and for the life of me I cannot find it anywhere. I think it was a link I found on the Gun Owners of America website.

But it detailed the crime rates for various groups.

From convicted felons, people convicted of misdemeanor, all the way down to those with state issued HCP and even Police Officers.

While convicted felons not surprisingly were the biggest piece of the pie. CHP holders were so small a group, less than 1%. The FBI said the number was statically insignificant.

Infact they said that Police Officers were far higher as a group to be charged with homicide than HCP Holders.

Year over year average, 1 out of every 1,875 (53.3 per 100k) Police Officers will be accused of homicide, per the UCR.

Nationwide IIRC they said that during the 10 year period they researched less than 500 HCP Holders were accused of any arrest-able offenses, much less homicide.


8 posted on 07/25/2010 8:41:21 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: umgud

I was living in Hattiesburg MS when they were considering a law to make open carry legal. The media were constantly referring to it as taking us back to the Wild West.

They ignored the fact that other states had passed similar legislation without everyone turning into a gunfighter.

I also remember a local TV station having a Hattiesburg policeman on regarding “assault rifles”. This idiot said that they could not be used for hunting as they were so powerful that there would be nothing left if you hit a deer with one.

Asking for honesty, accuracy, or integrity from the anti gun crowd is basically asking too much.


9 posted on 07/25/2010 8:41:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Lazamataz; JohnRLott

Amen, Laz. And thank you John R Lott.

The columns and the books are like the Gospel, and non-believers can’t/won’t hear or see the truth. Still, the research and the great language are so useful in argument.


10 posted on 07/25/2010 8:43:53 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (A "tea bagger"? Say it to my face. ><BCC>)
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To: JohnRLott; mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; ...

Thanks John!

Gun Talk Ping List BANG!


11 posted on 07/25/2010 8:45:16 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: umgud

Florida wasn’t first by any means. It just made the most noise when they changed the laws, first to allow anyone to legally keep a loaded gun in his car, then to issue carry permits, then to issue non resident carry permits.


12 posted on 07/25/2010 8:52:10 PM PDT by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!!!)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Thanks 50, good thread. Some people will never get it.


13 posted on 07/25/2010 9:03:24 PM PDT by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: JohnRLott

My gawrsh, they could SHOOT YOU DEAD! *Shiver*


14 posted on 07/25/2010 9:51:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: yarddog
I also remember a local TV station having a Hattiesburg policeman on regarding “assault rifles”. This idiot said that they could not be used for hunting as they were so powerful that there would be nothing left if you hit a deer with one.

Years ago I recall a BATF agent being interviewed (I think it was by Katie Couric) and he was showing the interviewer the history of the ammo of choice of criminals throughout the decades. first he stood up on end a .22 caliber bullet and claimed it was the ammo of choice of criminals in the 1930s. On he went, .32, .38, .45 being the ammo of choice throughout the 1950s, 60s, etc. He finished his demonstration with a .50 caliber round, claiming that was the ammo of choice of criminals these days.

15 posted on 07/25/2010 11:27:13 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: yarddog
The media were constantly referring to it as taking us back to the Wild West.

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16 posted on 07/26/2010 12:51:16 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 07/26/2010 6:57:43 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist,........one more time.....)
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