Posted on 03/30/2011 2:45:09 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
If this guy is “evil” you’d think satan would cover his tracks better. Then again, it’s my belief he always overplays his hand.
But, I’m convinced it could be proven beyond a doubt, and even obama could admit he was born in Kenya but say he just learned this himself, and the majority of the people in this country would say it’s okay. I KNOW the majority of the GOP office holders would run like cowards on the issue.
It’s becoming clear that someone planned to get Obama in office. I don’t believe he got enough legitimate votes to win.
Couple of random thoughts on this...
Why Trump? Why now?
Let’s start with Trump. Here is a guy with more money than he could possibly spend in a lifetime. He didn’t get that money by being dumb, marrying into it, or inheriting it. He has also very probably, in the course of his business, used private investigators before. They would be good ones. I would think it would be very likely that before he raised this issue, he would spend a few bucks to make sure he wasn’t sticking his willie in the meat grinder.
Now think about this. Despite his noises about looking at the Republican nomination, here is a guy who calls GWB “probably the worst president in history”, calls Kerry “a good friend” and has been buddy-buddy with the Clintons for a long time. Hell, put “The Donald” next to “Big Bubba” and you have two peas from the same pod.
So what is actually going on? I think that Hillary is planning to jump ship soon — possibly even “in protest” against Obama’s handling of the Libya mess — to position herself for a White House run. I also think that Hillary has the goods on Obama, has had them for years, and has been waiting for the “right time” to use them. But whatever she does, she can’t be tied directly to their release. She needs a “cat’s paw”.
Which brings us to the “Why now?”
Obama is seen, almost universally, as weak and ineffective. It’s the starting gate for the 2012 campaign season. If Hillary is going to make a move, she has to do it soon. Say she passes what she has to Trump, who confirms it through his own sources, and then start the ball rolling.
The real issue may not even be in the birth certificate itself. My gut feeling there is that the information he is hiding on his BC will be embarrassing, but not disqualifying. But it’s probably going to be the issue that cracks the wall of secrecy that has been carefully maintained around Obama.
Once it breaks, you can expect a lot of other stuff to start trickling out. None of those leaks will be devastating individually, but the overall affect, over time will be to totally destroy his credibility with EVERYONE.
Anyone think Hillary is not ruthless enough to play that level of hardball?
Hillary and Obama were in the same progressive kettle as Soros and other international enablers. Hillary couldn’t speak out,neither could Bill because of the same cabal that told Hillary to shut up or else,you have had your turn. Or else being personal scandal, money support, or even something more deadly. These folks don’t play just into sorry excuses. Now your possibility of Trump with his wealth and connections gives Hillary the chance to break free with protection. Could be that is the stage setting. However, Trump has made some very strong statements about what has been going on and remedies.As such it is difficult for me to accept the scenario noted because Hillary and Bill don’t fit, especially as to China.
Hillary and Obama were in the same progressive kettle as Soros and other international enablers. Hillary couldn’t speak out,neither could Bill because of the same cabal that told Hillary to shut up or else,you have had your turn. Or else being personal scandal, money support, or even something more deadly. These folks don’t play just into sorry excuses. Now your possibility of Trump with his wealth and connections gives Hillary the chance to break free with protection. Could be that is the stage setting. However, Trump has made some very strong statements about what has been going on and remedies.As such it is difficult for me to accept the scenario noted because Hillary and Bill don’t fit, especially as to China.
My first thought too although I think I still like "proofer" better than "birther." Maybe "doubter" or "verifier" or "qualifier"? Or maybe we could use two words like "eligibility skeptic"?
(The great) Mark Steyn is Canadian. Now a US citizen residing in New Hampshire.
This is series. Whomever certified he was eligible to serve should be held criminally responsible if he is found to be ineligible.
I think proofer is better than birther too - but you KNOW what the MSM/Comedy talking heads will do to the word proofer - count on it.... I don't know, maybe we could mainstream that little word.....Constitutionalists.....:)
In other news today, Larry Sinclair held a press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEnmptqYKV8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEctRMMqDIo&NR=1
Then why the horrible faux-Brit accent?
(I like Steyn but never got why he had that accent).
Instead of searching for a phantom Obama birth certificate, why not identify and secure all of the birth certificates from August 4, 1961?
Include the last three babies born on August 3, 1961 and the first three babies born on August 5, 1961.
One should be able to assemble a complete set in numerical order from August 3-August 5.
A few problems with that.
The HDOH will not disclose their 1961 birth index so it would be difficult to know the first name of the child born, just going from the birth announcements.
The birth announcements are nowhere near complete, even if the illegitimate births are accounted as lawfully being missing. The lists don’t match between the papers; there are births in one that never made it into the other. So the newspaper lists are not a true representation of all the children who were actually born, and it is questionable whether the lists came from the HDOH at all as a result of those discrepancies.
We would have to get the children who were born or their parents to request the BC’s for them, or to show what they’ve got. Locating them and getting them to cooperate would be very difficult.
And in the case of one particular child who we know was born on Aug 4 and died on Aug 5 - whose name is in the HDOH’s birth index and death index - the HDOH is claiming they don’t have a birth record.
IOW, Janice Okubo is the dragon sitting on the pile of treasure and she is not going to be bothered by the need to be either truthful or lawful.
Those are the obstacles.
The idea that you have, though, is exactly what needs to happen. The only way it CAN happen is through a legal investigation and subpoena of those records. And specifically the embedded logs which indicate when the records were created and what changes they have undergone since creation. Unfortunately, we have no law enforcement in this country that will touch this.
My only problem with your theory is that Hillary (and Bill) have a long documented record of using the same type of PIs that you suggest Trump has access to. I just can't see her not having the goods on Obama in the 2008 campaign and not using them. Perhaps that's what she tried to do with Berg (a known Hillary supporter) and just didn't get any traction.
Apart from that, I do agree with you that Trump does have an ulterior motive which may or may not be linked to HRC.
There’s one other difficulty as well. By law the local registrars were supposed to collect their BC’s for a week and then submit them all to the HDOH.
So the numbers that the BC’s were given are not necessarily related to what day the child was BORN but to what day the registrar (and it appears that the bigger hospitals had someone who acted as a local/deputized registrar) submitted the BC’s to the HDOH, since it was the HDOH who gave the BC#, on the “date filed” (for Oahu births). At least that’s what Janice Okubo has said.
So the sequential BC numbers could be totally out of whack with the actual birth dates and times.
Hillary has been too much on the front of this Libya situation to be able to protest Obama’s handling of it, unless it’s to say that he has been dragging his feet - but the big issue is that he DIDN’T take the time to get Congressional authorization or find out who the rebels even are.
Hillary’s deadpan responses of “No” to every question of whether she would be interested in this or that political office would make a liar out of her if she ran for anything.
I think it is true that if Hillary was to have any chance of anything she would first have to so damage Obama that Soros gave up on him, but that would take a lot, IMHO, simply because Obama has the Islamists in his corner and that adds a lot of money to the war chest. Probably enough that Soros can threaten to make a run on the bank that would make the Sept 2008 run pale by comparison - which is what I believe Soros has been using as the threat to get all the judges and media (up until now) to give Obama a pass.
There is a crack in the media facade, though, because Sean Hannity doesn’t appear to be backing down. And if the 9th Circuit Appeals Court isn’t just monkeying around with Orly, there could be a break in the judicial facade as well. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
The breaks in those facades have come as Soros is making an OPEN (though not widely reported) move to try to change up the whole economic world by decree rather than necessarily by a run on the bank - possibly because the former union guy (I forget his name) was caught on tape urging a run on Bank of America as the unions’ way to deal with their fading power. A run on the bank has been exposed as the leftists’ economic terrorism, so maybe Soros thinks that route won’t work again.
Hillary had no chance of getting anywhere. Soros had already ordained an Obama win. The foul play at the DNC Convention just goes to show it was set up from the beginning. Hillary would have known that. Maybe Soros baying for Chelsea’s wedding was his way of trying to mend the bridge with Clinton so she wouldn’t try to ruin Obama’s re-election chances.
But when Hillary accepted the SOS position I think it was her acknowledging that Soros had chosen Obama and there was no way she would ever get elected without the blessing of Soros.
Hillary had no chance of getting anywhere. Soros had already ordained an Obama win. The foul play at the DNC Convention just goes to show it was set up from the beginning. Hillary would have known that. Maybe Soros paying for Chelsea’s wedding was his way of trying to mend the bridge with Clinton so she wouldn’t try to ruin Obama’s re-election chances.
But when Hillary accepted the SOS position I think it was her acknowledging that Soros had chosen Obama and there was no way she would ever get elected without the blessing of Soros.
Yep, the Clintons knew just how radioactive it would be for their base to be tied to real Obama mudslinging. And Barry backed them off by insinuating that Bill was a racist. Also, I think they thought they were winning until too late.
But after a couple of years of cool poker, it’s amusing to see Hill play her Trump card.
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