Posted on 04/30/2011 2:44:45 PM PDT by mainestategop
There were witnesses and the 10 year cooperated with investigators, but her attorney invoked her 5th amendment right when she was on the stand. Very little doubt that she’s responsible.
I think so too especailly after learning that the babysitter called the Mom and told her there was something wrong with the baby but refused to call 911?
The witness was another little girl who could’ve been told to say that by the babysitter.Still not convinced that the girl did it.
Very, very perceptive. Makes me wonder about the "witnesses." Was the 9 year old girl strong enough/physically large enough?
What does an 11-month old weigh? Say, roughly, 15 lbs. I have a 9 year old boy, and he's a tough, outdoorsy, athletic kid, and he would have a great deal of difficulty manhandling a 15-pound baby to death. And as for throwing the baby into a crib--while perched upon what, exactly??? I guess if the side guard is down it's possible, but the whole story stinks. On top of everything else, 11 months old isn't an age where fighting back is possible but it's also not helpless infancy. The baby would have been squirming, grabbing, kicking--not to mention screaming--this 9 year old girl must have been quite a strong little Amazon. And the babysitter stone deaf as well as grossly incompetent. If the story happened as it is being told.
But please, all you other freepers-- Continue to condemn a 9 year old, if that somehow makes you feel as if any kind of justice will come from this horrible situation.
Lets see where all the “kill em!” freepers are with this one.
Having just watched the movie the Bad Seed, a 50’s film about an amoral little girl who kills, this sounds awfully familiar.
See any condemnations here? Nope. I agree with what was said above BTW. This was definitely suspicious.
9 years old at the time, shaking a baby to death then throwing it into a crib....,.,I'm not sure a 9 year old has that strength.....
I'm with you on this one....
“Time to strap her into an extra-large sized paint shaker and turn it on.”
Whom God would destroy He first makes angry. I don’t believe I’ve ever come across anyone quite as angry sounding as you. Good luck.
So two girls were playing hot potato with this 11-month old baby (average 21 pounds) and the baby sitter didn’t hear a peep?
Does anyone actually believe this story? Then check out the actions of the sitter....
http://www.publicopiniononline.com/ci_17851866?source=most_viewed
Bopp testified that he was one of about 10 troopers to conduct more than 30 interviews for the investigation. He spoke with Bowers, who said she went to get the baby up from his post-lunch nap about 2:50 p.m. and discovered for the first time that something was wrong.
“She said she knew that he was in trouble and that he was in need of medical help,” he said.
Bopp testified that he checked that day’s phone records for Bowers and Shelly Ryder. He learned that the baby sitter called Ryder for the first time at 3:25 p.m., but the call went to voice mail. She then tried calling about 12 more times before reaching her at 3:37 p.m.
Bowers never called 911 that day, Bopp testified. The call for emergency assistance was placed from Ryder’s cell phone at 3:47 p.m. The baby sitter told police that she was “too scared to put Heath down” long enough to call 911.
Shelly Ryder told the jury that Bowers called her to tell her that her son could not be awakened and was breathing unusually. She asked the baby sitter repeatedly to call 911, but Bowers refused, Ryder testified.
“She said, ‘He’s fine. We don’t need 911 here,’” Ryder said.
When she got to Bowers’ house, Bowers was holding the limp baby. Ryder, a nurse who works in Chambersburg, said her son’s lips were blue. She quickly took him from the baby sitter and began mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Still, Bowers refused to call for help.
“I was yelling at her, ‘He’s dying, please help me. You have to call 911,’” Ryder said. “She just stood there and looked at me.”
Ryder testified she eventually stopped trying to resuscitate her baby so she could call 911 using her own cell phone.
Sobbing could be heard throughout the courtroom when Fogal played a recording of Ryder’s 911 call. “God, please hurry,” the hysterical mother said to the operator. As he attempted to calm her down and talk her through the situation, Shelly Ryder could be heard crying and saying, “come on, Heathy.”
It is possible. But I have known a lot of 10 year old kids that were real assholes.
>>It is possible. But I have known a lot of 10 year old kids that were real assholes.<<
I’m a school crossing guard. I have too. BUT, how many 9 year olds (the kid was 9) do you know that can launch a baby (not an infant, who can’t lift his own head but nearly a toddler) over the side of a crib with enough force to kill it?
The average weight of an 11 month old baby is 21 pounds.
AND, while she and the girl who testified against her were playing hot potato with this baby, where was the baby sitter and why wasn’t she supervising them?
Condemnations here, on this thread's comments? There are a few freepers here that I seriously doubt have ever had any interaction with a 9 year old. 3rd grade, for crying out loud! I spend a lot of time with my son's class and even considering the bigger kids I doubt the physical possibility of this, and I would never--could never--condemn a 9 year old as evil or worthy of “Time to strap her into an extra-large sized paint shaker and turn it on.” 9 is hardly old enough to really understand how death happens, or to grasp the finality of death.
I wasn't, and am not, referring to any of your comments as being too quick on the trigger.
Clue...it was fiction.
Not angry at all, but think what you will. At least I didn’t wish God’s wrath on someone.
Here you demonstrate your anger. Instead of ruminating upon a warning you call it something it is not in order to use it to lash out. This will not serve you well. So go ahead, claim you are not overflowing with rage as you put the 9 yr old in the industrial sized paint shaker.(!)
OK, one more time. I was not serious, but thanks for the warning.
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