The Vindication of George W. Bush

Hotair ^ | 05/05/2011 | Guy Benson

[ohioWfan]

His policys had nothing to do with no more terrorists attacks..

If this sentence is what you actually mean, there is no more point in discussing President Bush with you than there is with Alan Grayson.

He said basically the same thing as you just did to Ed Schultz (who didn't disagree). They're both crazy leftists, but if you're fine in agreeing with them, there's not much I can do to help you find what is true.

Take care, hosepipe. Life is better than you think it is.

[hosepipe]

There are a lot of republican leftists.. some are tools, and some are true believers..
knowing the difference does not do you that much good..

You much watch what they do.. and react to it..
Is Bush a tool or a believer?.. Who cares?..
Sometimes he is one sometimes he is the other..
YOUR reaction is what counts..

[ohioWfan]

And by YOUR refusing to acknowledge that he was neither a 'leftist' nor a 'tool' in waging war against terrorists, you acknowledge that your emotions against him blur your ability to discern and evaluate the reality of the situation.

Even if you hated his guts in every other regard, your insistence on arguing that he did no good in any area of his Presidency puts you in the same category as any leftist who does the same thing as you are doing - i.e. the Alan Graysons and Barack Obamas of the world.

Your ideology may be better than theirs, but your thought process is the same. Irrational.

btw, I've spent a lot of hours making a great deal of effort (in the REAL world) to rid the Republican party of leftists. I would wager that you haven't done anything of the sort, though it would give you more credibility if you actually had.

[hosepipe]

[ I've spent a lot of hours making a great deal of effort (in the REAL world) to rid the Republican party of leftists. I would wager that you haven't done anything of the sort, though it would give you more credibility if you actually had. ]

The Progressives have many forms of leftist.. including Rinos and single issue republicans.. G. Bush is a progressive not your average leftist.. his agenda is greater than world socialism.. It is a new world order.. built on capitalism socialized.. or socialized capitalism.. much like China.. only different..

All socialists are progressives.. BUT not all progressives are socialists.. I know this sounds like circular thinking BUT thats what a progressive is.. "a circular thinking posture child".. Its a mental disorder..

ALL BIG government republicans ARE progressives.. Bush Jr. is not alone either.. many republicans are in this state.. probably you are too.. It seems you cannot tell the difference between a leftist and a progressive.. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they ARE NOT..

[ohioWfan]

ALL BIG government republicans ARE progressives.. Bush Jr. is not alone either.. many republicans are in this state.. probably you are too.. It seems you cannot tell the difference between a leftist and a progressive.. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they ARE NOT..

ROFLOL! The part in bold......... REALLY funny. REALLY wrong.

Thanks for the conversation, hosepipe. It didn't get anywhere, but at least it was civil.

Let me know when you actually DO something conservative. WORK for conservatism. MAKE a difference in moving this country radically toward the right.......just like John Kasich is doing here in Ohio and Scott Walker in Wisconsin, Michelle Bachmann, Mike Pence, Allen West, etc., etc., etc.(unless you're crazy enough to think they're all 'progressives' too).

Until then, all your internet talk (mostly whining) is worthless theory and doesn't help the country a bit. Try to SAVE it from the progressives......in BOTH parties. Don't just sit there.

btw, that's a challenge. DO something. Most Bush-haters never get around to it. Maybe you will....

[hosepipe]

[ Let me know when you actually DO something conservative. WORK for conservatism. MAKE a difference in moving this country radically toward the right...... ]

Well I do, do my part in exposing progressive republicans.. i.e. G. Bush Jr. and Sr..

Prescott Bush was another slimy progressive.. Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin D., Obama, the Clintoons.. Johnson.. the Maine twins, John McLame, Graham.. and that Lugar creature.. so many so little time.. Oh!... and Myth Romney.. It might be easier to list the NON progressives..

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Good luck convincing anyone but Bush's true believers.

There are stories out there that Mullah Omar offered to give Bin Laden up days after the bombing started in Afghanistan, but that Bush refused.

Also Bush refused to allow the marines to deploy in sufficient numbers to trap Bin Laden at Tora Bora.

The American people (left, right, and center) have become so cynical of our political "leaders" that there is no amount of evidence that will change people's minds.

The birthers will continue to know that Obama was born in Kenya. We all know that Vince Foster was murdered by the Clintons. There are others that know that Islamic terrorists were behind the Oklahoma City bombing, or that 9/11 was an inside job.

And don't forget the 50+% of Americans that think space aliens have visited the U.S. and the government is hiding that fact from us.

[ohioWfan]

So you actually think that sitting at your computer bashing President Bush is conservative activism and helping the country move to the right? Wow.

Scary admission, hosepipe. You are accomplishing NOTHING.

And apparently are proud of it. No wonder you're so mad all the time and do so much whining.

(Prescott Bush?? LOL! Yeah......he's a real threat these days!)

I repeat. Let me know when you're actually helping the conservative cause, and we'll talk again. But thanks for the honesty. This is a conservative forum, and I'm sure it's interesting to more conservative activists than me that you think doing nothing to promote conservatism is enough.

[hosepipe]

[ So you actually think that sitting at your computer bashing President Bush is conservative activism and helping the country move to the right? ]

NO..... I'm moving this "thread" to the right.. successfully..
The whole country is another matter..

The United States has NOW a federal government that match the people..
Washington D.C. is corrupt BUT not any more corrupt than the people generally are..
The fed. gov't matches the people.. ELSE the people would change it..

George Bush is corrupt.. not any more corrupt than many other republicans are but corrupt nevertheless..
Some are more corrupt than he is.. and some are less corrupt than he is..
BUT George Bush Jr. is Corrupt...

Maybe he was less corrupt at one point in his life..
BUT I don't try to split hairs anymore..

[ohioWfan]

From henceforth if you post again on this thread, you will not have me as an audience.

Anyone who says all Republicans are 'corrupt' is not worth wasting effort to discuss issues with.

There may be 10 or 12 freepers who agree with you, but the vast majority of conservatives are far more discerning than you are.

As I have said to others, if everyone is a RINO, no one is a RINO. And if you claim EVERY Republican is corrupt, you have destroyed the meaning of the word. There is no such thing as corruption if you truly believe YOU are the only one who is not corrupt.

As far as I see it, your POV has much more in common with Barack Obama than it does with any thinking conservative. Hating all Republicans doesn't make you more conservative. It just reveals that you are irrational.

Completely, thoroughly, utterly, entirely irrational.

Thanks for letting all the thinking conservatives on this board know that. You're not making a single bit of difference in the world of politics, but that's the way you want it.

Type away, hosepipe. Typing on the internet is........in your own words....... all you're good for.

[ohioWfan]

One final point......the reason I need to stop this conversation is that your apathy towards conservative activism is making me furious.

A lot of the self-proclaimed 'true conservatives' on this board are complete phonies....children who don't know right from wrong, but I've never seen you as one of them before.

But now, with your self-admission of doing nothing to save this country from Marxism, you have put yourself in the same category as the little knot of punks on this forum who also don't lift a finger to help the country.

I say shame on ALL of you who claim conservatism on a forum, but sit on your butts and let the country go swirling down the toilet while the rest of us do the work. You're ALL pathetic freeloaders. Shame on you!

[hosepipe]

[ Anyone who says all Republicans are 'corrupt' is not worth wasting effort to discuss issues with. ]

I did not say that.. you're "PROJECTING" again...
Using superlatives is usually a feminine approach..
You're saying what "I DIDN'T" say.. not all republicans just many of them..

Thats a good gambit usually employed by democrats.. i.e.. projecting..
BUT not on FR "we" know the ploy and catch the "USERS"..
Consider yersef caught..

[hosepipe]

[ But now, with your self-admission of doing nothing to save this country from Marxism ]

Marxism and Fascism are BOTH leftism..
Marxism makes ALL business partners with the government..
Fascism makes ALL business partners with the government..
They just do it in different ways..

ALL lite-socialism makes government a parasite of business.. in yet a different way.. but its still leftism..

You have Progressives in all those groups and other variations as well..

You make the problem(s) simplistic.. which does NOT mean simple.. but TOO SIMPLE..
democracy is a lie... ALL DEMOCRACY!!!..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

[ohioWfan]

[ Anyone who says all Republicans are 'corrupt' is not worth wasting effort to discuss issues with. ]

I did not say that.. you're "PROJECTING" again... Using superlatives is usually a feminine approach.. You're saying what "I DIDN'T" say.. not all republicans just many of them.. Wow. I have to step in here and congratulate you for your clever and semi-deceptive use of the English language.

THIS is what you said...

George Bush is corrupt.. not any more corrupt than many other republicans are but corrupt nevertheless.. Some are more corrupt than he is.. and some are less corrupt than he is..

Some are more, some are less, implying, of course, that all are, but not quite stating it outright.

Very clever. And I missed it. Shame on me.

I suppose that ability comes from doing nothing but sitting at a computer for 10 years, eh? :) All that inactivism has its benefits.

Anyway, congrats. You are quite probably the only Bush-hater on this forum who doesn't have a low IQ.

Nice work.

(The sexist touch was nice, too...... you're a pro, hosepipe. A real pro. :)

[hosepipe]

[ (The sexist touch was nice, too...... you're a pro, hosepipe. A real pro. :) ]

Come here ya big lug.. hold my cigar and beer... ((( HUG ))

[ohioWfan]

Glad to see you smile, hosepipe. Maybe you should do it more often...

LIFE is GOOD! :)