Skip to comments.Palin, Perry: Friendship with a '12 twist
Posted on 07/06/2011 1:10:00 PM PDT by Sonny M
Two major names remain on the 2012 bench. Each has a giant persona, comes from a giant state, and has a giant following.
Yes, its Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Their political friendship, while somewhat recent, seems real so real that it would be easy to imagine one endorsing the other if only one of them would jump into the race. That would give an instant charge of credibility and buzz to the endorsee, and likely set either Palin or Perry as the Tea Party favorite.
Their friendship goes back to their days as governors, but their political alliance first emerged in the 2010 Texas GOP gubernatorial primary, when the incumbent, Perry, faced a fierce challenge from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison.
National politicians rarely relish involving themselves in fractious primaries, but Palin did so early on, endorsing Perry wholeheartedly.
He does what is right regardless of whether it is popular. He walks the walk of a true conservative, she wrote, and, in a nod to their shared cultural populism, added, He sticks to his guns and you know how I feel about guns!
Her endorsement was significant. Hutchison is one of the nations most powerful female Republican politicians, yet Palin chose Perrys conservatism over Hutchisons status as a potential Mama Grizzly.
But she didnt just endorse him; she traveled to Texas to stump for him in a splashy campaign event on Super Bowl Sunday. The Associated Press reported that more than 6,000 fans filled a stadium to see Palin take the stage.
Perry, ever the appreciative host, praised her effusively, providing as good a description of the former governor as she herself might make.
I doubt there is another public figure in our country who gives liberals a bigger case of the hives, he said. At the very mention of her name, the liberals, the progressives, the media elites, they literally foam at the mouth.
When it came time for Palin to speak, she noted the really sweet connections between the two states, their independent, pioneer-spirited people and their similar GOP primary electorates. Perry sealed that connection at the event by handing Palin a certificate making her an honorary Texan.
Perry went on to defeat Hutchison easily in the primary.
Palins and Perrys mutual admiration has extended beyond the 2010 midterm election. Soon after being elected for his record third term as Texas governor, Perry released a book, Fed Up: Our Fight to Save America from Washington.
Palin tweeted that she was anxious to read it and, indeed, praised the book at a post-
election event both attended on behalf of a pro-life group.
The governor is talking good stuff about this Lone Star State, she said, adding that he was trying to protect his constituents from Washington, D.C.
Philosophically, the two share similar values, favoring small-government conservatism with a strong emphasis on states rights and populist rhetoric.
The two share another similarity: contempt for the mainstream media. Palins grievances with the Fourth Estate are well-known, but Perrys are as significant. In his 2010 reelection bid, he refused to meet with any editorial boards from the Texas newspapers.
His spokesman explained to the Austin American-Statesman: In the final weeks of the campaign, a better use of the governors time is to continue traveling the state talking to Texans about issues that are important to them.
Frankly, Perry didnt have a lot of use for the media not after two terms as governor nor did the media have much use for him, as most major papers endorsed his GOP rival in the gubernatorial primary and Democratic rival in the general election.
He further enraged the media when he spoke at a national editorial writers gathering last fall and wouldnt take questions, prompting the groups stunned president to send Perry a letter accusing of him of disingenuousness and going back on his word.
The fact is, Perry was so far ahead that he didnt need the press, and he romped to a huge win in his reelection bid. Palin likewise engenders anger from some in the press because she sells books and packs halls even while shunning interaction with all but a few conservative outlets. Each seems to thrive on the conflict, and that approach is further evidence that theyre not just philosophical allies, but also temperamentally kindred. Its still too difficult to tell whether one or both will jump in the race. Perry seems more likely, and if he does, Palin might opt out and choose to back her friend.
In fact, during the midst of her recent bus tour, Palin brought Perrys name up again, unprompted, telling a group of reporters in Baltimore, I think he would be a fine candidate. We have a lot in common.
She added: I really like him.
Heinze, the founder of GOP12.com, is a member of staff at The Hill.
Sidenote: In 2010, Former President George H.W. Bush, along with Dick Cheney and several other members of the former Bush administration endorsed and supported Senator Hutchinson in her bid to defeat Perry, Karl Rove actively worked on her staff. Former Governor Palin, in direct opposition to Rove and other Bush supporters, got involved and supported Perry.
On 2/7/07, the WSJ reported that Merck was desperate for cash.
With estimates that the settlements Merck will owe for its Vioxx litigation
will amount to approximately $970 million, and the expiration of some of its patents,
Merck faces a huge cash flow problem.
But if Gardasil is mandated, Merck will generate sales of approximately
$1 billion in the first year alone, with 5 year revenue projections of up to $4 billion"
In 2007, when Texas governor Rick Perry issued
an executive order that all girls entering the 6th grade
would receive Gardasil, parents were furious.
Some argued that the vaccine would promote promiscuity.
The order was eventually overturned."
" Critics rip Perry's vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents' calls to reverse order
AUSTIN - Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.
Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process. "
"RP65 - Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 o Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."
The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
There are over 40 Types of HPV, and 15 of them
have been linked to cervical cancer and/or genital warts.
Gardasil has been developed to vaccinate
against the 4 Types that have the highest
correlation with cancer and genital warts.
However, unlike the smallpox vaccine, for example,
Gardasil does not grant full immunity to those 4 Types of HPV.
Gardasil offers no protection against the other
11 strains of HPV that have been linked to cervical cancer. "
Merck and the Gardasil Vaccine Show Us the Money
First there was the news that Gardasil sales had dropped by 16% in 2008.
As CNBCs Mike Huckman bluntly put it,
From the third quarter of last year to the fourth quarter
Gardasil sales fell off a cliff Merck officials said part of the Gardasil problem
is that so many 11-18 year-old females have already been
inoculated that they're running out of new customers.
And the 19-26 year-old population continues to be a marketing challenge."
The main problem with Gardasil seems to be the equivalent of a design flaw.
To be completely immunized, women have
to get a series of three shots over six months.
Many women don't.
The Centers for Disease Control reported in late
August that while 44% of teenagers received the HPV vaccine in 2009,
only 27% of them received all three doses of the shot.
Unfortunately, there isn't evidence to support
that getting only one shot effectively protects against cancer. "
CDC: "As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil®
were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events
As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports
of death among those who have received Gardasil®."
"Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine
A federal report has concluded that the human papillomavirus (HPV)
vaccine Gardasil has a 400 percent higher rate of adverse effects
than another comparable vaccine, the Menactra anti-meningitis shot. "
And so it begins!
My prediction going way back. Perry/Palin 2012
Or as you predict I predict one or the other will run, but NOT both, and when one runs, the other will endorse.
I'm not 100% behind Perry, but enough to vote for him over the current field. ...so hard to find a perfect candidate.
Rove is a two-faced, double-dealing, backstabbing, manipulative, disingenuous political hack.
The Rove connection
The relationship between the camps includes a rich mix of political differences, class distinctions, loyalty questions and perceived slights of campaigns past. And it is a uniquely Texas story, opening in the Western dust bowl where both emerged Mr. Perry as a conservative Democratic state lawmaker from a modest farming family and Mr. Bush as a failed Republican Congressional candidate of famous New England stock.
In 1989, Mr. Rove, already a powerful Texas political consultant, helped persuade Mr. Perry to join the Republican Party and run for agriculture commissioner.
Mr. Rove was heavily invested in Mr. Perrys victory as lieutenant governor in 1998, and helped recruit Mr. Carney to run Mr. Perrys campaign while he ran Mr. Bushs. The tensions first spilled out publicly in 2007, when a video wound up on YouTube capturing Mr. Perry speaking dismissively of Mr. Bush at a Republican house party in Iowa for former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York. In the video, Mr. Perry said, George Bush was never a fiscal conservative never was, adding, I mean, 95, 97, 99, George Bush was spending money.
Palin will never run for the number 2 slot again. Ever. If Perry runs and Palin doesn't, my guess is Palin will campaign hard for Perry but not be part of the ticket. I still think if Palin doesn't run we may end up seeing a Perry/Rubio ticket.
The Times did some short work on this, their relationship soured in 1998, when Perry ran. Rove was trying to get Bush more latino votes, which was good for Bush, and good for Perrys democratic opponent (Sharp ?). According to Carney, this strategy, would have helped Bush but cost Perry, at that point Perry went "rouge" and negative, and wound up winning a very close victory, but the 2 campaigns differed.
If you want to see some real hostility, look up what happened between them in 2000 when Bush became president, where Perry essentially wanted to kick Bush and his family out of the governors mansion ASAP, something which the Bush family did not take to kindly to.
Politics is like a soap opera, or pro-wrestling, todays friends, are tomorrows enemies, and todays enemies are tomorrows friends. Selective slicing and dicing can make anyone look one way or the other. In 2008, John McCain, over the objections of Karl Rove (who was working for him), picked Sarah Palin (Rove wanted Romney). Someone can always spin that as, in 2008, Rove worked tirelessly to make Sarah Palin the vice president. Karl Rove worked for the McCain/Palin campaign. Its true, but its not really accurate. (I used that as an example, because MSNBC has often tried to tie Palin to Rove together, and if Palin runs, they will do it again).
Just so it’s clear, my post wasn’t anti-Perry, (alhough I think it’s better for us and for Texas if Perry stays in Texas,) it was all out against rove. He is a rollins clone and a dirty player. Anyone who trusts him is going to get whacked one way or another. He’s a control freak on top of that and wants to stay in control regardless of the effect on his candidate or on the candidate’s constituency. That was never more clear than in the Bush white House where the constituency was the entire country.
“Hutchison is one of the nations most powerful female Republican politicians, yet Palin chose Perrys conservatism over Hutchisons status as a potential Mama Grizzly.”
Hutchisons status as a potential Mama Grizzly.”
Article lost me right there. Kay Bailey Hutchinson as a principaled conservative. Yeah. Right. Sure.
I keep reading these Perry articles in the hopes that I can find him to be a very conservative politicians. Palin’s endorsement carries weight with me, so I want to see if she endorsed him because he was a true conservative, or just the lesser of evils.
If Perry is a conservative in the Hutchinson mold, I don’t want anything to do with him. Why can’t we find out if this guy is actually conservative or not?
Is Mrs Palin telling the truth, or not?
The best you can do, is either go to his record and judge for yourself, or rely on the endorsements or criticisms of others (i.e. Governor Palin, or Barbour, or a DeMint, or a Rush Limbaugh, etc).
That said, Hutchinson, is not, or was she ever, a conservative, she was, at best, a right of center moderate and for the most part somewhat of a party loyalist.
In regards to Palin, one of the reasons I respect her highly, is that she doesn't endorse moderates or "lesser of 2 evils" in campaigns, if the choice is 2 liberals, then she ignores the race, if its a case of a moderate or a liberal, she isn't going to bother, she supports conservatives, period. The fact that she endorsed Perry, and then again, recently, brought up his name (without being prompted or asked, totally on her own), makes is pretty clear she likes him. That does carry weight with me.
And, she will be appointed Secratary of...
There is an ole saying, "A conservative is concerned with policy, a republican, with power." Karl Rove is a republican. He is a "win at all costs" type, and will place pragmatism over principle any day of the week, and twice on sunday. He is from the school of "triangulation" and supports moderates, right of center, left of center, and anything in between.
That said, the man has made alot of enemies, on both the right and the left, it seems that to know Mr. Rove, is to eventually grow issue with him (one former client was actually sued by him), and most relationships with him go bitter eventually.
Palin endorsed McLame for Senator, who is clearly a RINO. I think she did so out of loyalty for his putting her on the national stage. That is proof that Palin does endorse RINOs, or at least establishment non-tea party candidates, and brings into question her endorsement of Perry.
I am open minded to her support of Perry, I am just disturbed about some aspects of him. Going into the election, he sounds much like Bush did - a conservative talker who did advance some conservative views like low taxes, opposition to abortion, opposition to gun control, etc., and then spent wildly, created TSA and Homeland Security, and then flooded us with illegal aliens.
I would likely vote for Perry over Obama, but I really don’t want Baby Bush II.
I don’t begrudge him his having once been a Democrat, but I am terrified of his being the Chairman for Al Gore’s election campaign. I realize Gore was not so wildly socialist at the time - probably was still pro-life at the time. But still, that speaks volumes to me. Gore was never even a moderate and Perry thought enough of him to run his election campaign. That has me wary of him.
Several conservative here reveal he has all the right sound bites at election time, but doesn’t govern as a conservative. I will continue to do my homework concerning his conservative credentials, but I am very wary of him. I am not convinced yet he is much better than Romney.
I just re-read your post. Are you saying that DeMint and Limbaugh also vouch for his being a solid conservative?
You have to understand that Texas is another world. Texans hold Perry’s feet to the fire. Sans that, I am also unsure of him on a national stage.
No, what I meant was, a respected source like a DeMint or a Limbaugh. However, that said, Limbaugh did do a show about Perry (He does like him). Limbaugh would fall into the fan category, but my point was, one easy way to determine if someone was a conservative was to see what respected conservatives say about that person, its a play on the "judge a man by the friends he keeps" or, "judge a man by the enemies he makes" concept.
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