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Nearly 8k for a dog? With that kind of money changing hands no wonder the backyard breeders here on FR are so absolutist. Must piss them off when a prospective buyer decides on getting their family pet from a -gasp- shelter.
1 posted on 10/21/2011 3:06:14 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

The guy didn’t buy the dog for $8,000.

He bought the 30 lbs of cocaine that was inside the dog for $8,000.

He got a good deal.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 3:10:24 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: KantianBurke

This dog was misrepresented by seller. As an owner of 6 German Shepherds over the past 40 yrs or so I can tell you the behavior exhibited or described by the buyer is anything but normal for this breed.

The described behavior indicates a dog not properly socialized in the critical time period from birth to 6 months. Dogs left mostly to themselves will, over a period of time want nothing to do with anyone or any other animal.

This is sad because the animal will in all probability be euthanized barring some very patient individual assuming ownership and working long and hard to do what should have been done much earlier on in this animals life.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 3:18:16 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: KantianBurke; Joe 6-pack
“Why would Mr. Dubin abandon his dog like that?” Wayne Curry, the owner of Kraftwerk K9, said on Tuesday in a telephone interview. “The dog belonged to him. We had a purchase agreement that stated he had 72 hours to return the dog if he was unsatisfied, and that time period had elapsed.”

Sounds like an irresponsible breeder. 72 hours for a location on the other side of the continent? How can you even judge an animal in 72 hours?

Boycott this breeder.

7 posted on 10/21/2011 3:48:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: KantianBurke

The shelters are full of good dogs; my last three were rescues and that’s all I’ll ever have going forward. I can’t see breeding so many more dogs when we have an oversupply like we have but vanity being vanity, I suppose there will always be a market.


9 posted on 10/21/2011 4:09:50 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: KantianBurke

Oddly, $8k can be cheap. A good gun dog costs $600/mo to train and can take about two years to fully train. I’m going to send my next one for forced retrieve training because I might not do it right and ruin the dog.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 4:34:40 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: KantianBurke
I strongly support getting dogs from the shelter. We got our puppy from a cousin of my wife's -- her husband found a pregnant dog abandoned in the forest. The mother is half-boxer and half-american staffordshire terrier and the father we suspect was a Bavarian Scenthound.

Our little puppy is adorable -- she's got the scenthound temperament but the boxer coat (black-brown) and long legs. She's obedient and never barks in the house.

And we paid nothing for her -- but we would pay all we had to get her again. Dogs from shelters are the way -- you save a dog who really needs a home.

11 posted on 10/21/2011 4:34:58 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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15 posted on 10/21/2011 4:43:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: KantianBurke

Great folks here in Kennesaw (Atlanta). We got our dogs from them.

http://www.mostlymutts.org/animals


21 posted on 10/21/2011 6:12:33 AM PDT by Crawdad
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Very interesting, a snapshot into breeders/trainers in the "German" world and the whole "long-distance transport" mindset.

This is not raising my opinion of Kraftwerk, of whom I am sure many of you are aware as a big-shot kennel.

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23 posted on 10/21/2011 6:24:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: KantianBurke

Backyard breeders? Kraftwerk is hardly what they themselves would dismissively describe as “BYBs”: https://kraftwerkk9.com/

They are well known in the Euro/Schutzhund world.

7K for an older dog is not unusual, especially if that dog was highly bred and trained.

That said, I am not happy about Kraftwerk’s behavior - nor about most “reputable” breeders. Not that the customer was perfect - I don’t know the whole story either way. But most people will willingly go get the dog who’s left in a precarious situation just because they don’t want it “abandoned”, regardless of the BS “agreement” (paper or word?).

These “reputable” people have gotten too big for their britches in the last 20 years, and personally I think next time I will be going back to the local newspapers and “BYBs” like we did before I knew about dog shows. As long as *I* think it’s a pure GS and a good temperament and health, who really cares?


25 posted on 10/21/2011 6:45:28 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: KantianBurke

What a jerk.

The dog needed more time than that to adjust.


58 posted on 10/21/2011 7:39:02 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: KantianBurke
I don't understand paying $8k for a dog unless you have a specific specialized need (i.e. seeing-eye dog or K-9 police dog).

All my dogs I got for free. Either got them out of a litter, a rescue from a shelter, or take in as a stray. Of course, they end up costing big money once you get them! But worth every penny.

My current dog, a border collie/australian shepherd mix, was abandoned in the woods. When I found the puppy, it looked to be about 12 weeks old and was covered in ticks. It must have just been abandoned as I'm sure the coyotes would have gotten to her eventually. We bonded right away although even today (four years later), she has trouble with strangers. This dog keeps me in good shape as she requires several miles of walking every day.

88 posted on 10/23/2011 7:37:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Herman Cain 2012)
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