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It's Official: Ballot Challenge To Mitt Romney's Eligibility To Be President Filed In Illinois

Posted on 01/16/2012 11:21:39 AM PST by Obama Exposer

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To: Obama Exposer
Look, can we all just face the TRUTH, the very very unpleasant TRUTH staring us in the face for lo these past long months..............we're doomed! Our 'candidates' and I use the word so so very loosely, are losers, one and all. A communist punk who has destroyed our economy and economic future, humiliated us before the world at large, is a fraud, is a criminal who has NOT only failed to uphold the Constitution, but has proudly defiled it, and we couldn't find a single decent candidate to defeat this flaming homo POS!

We are doomed! So stop with the lawsuits and the bickering. It was over before it started. The trick NOW is how are we going to remove this turd smear after Jan 22, 2013? Got any bright ideas boys!?

41 posted on 01/16/2012 12:23:32 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Brilliant

What bothers me about this type of effort is it is at best, deception disguised as ignorance(bringing false witness). When this type of suit is filed, it only casts negative light on those of us who have studied in order to put out ONLY the truth and thus fuels the mockers.

I reject it, I deplore it and most of all, God deplores it!


42 posted on 01/16/2012 12:26:13 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: longtermmemmory
"not this vatel manure again. besides dual citizenship has been allowed and enchanced by Reagan. this case is DOA."

Founder and Historian David Ramsay defines “natural born Citizen” in 1789

Four Supreme Court Cases Define Natural Born Citizen

43 posted on 01/16/2012 12:27:41 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: patlin

Don’t get too upset about it. The result is a foregone conclusion, I think, and it’s time for the courts to decide this once and for all. I think it would be better to decide it now than on the eve of the election, though.


44 posted on 01/16/2012 12:28:36 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: mvpel

So do you think if George Romney had became the nominee the Senate would have had to get a resolution like they did for McCain stating he is a natural born citizen?

This was entered into the Congressional record in 1967:

Congressional Record (House) June 14, 1967

“I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan Is Ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution.”


45 posted on 01/16/2012 12:31:28 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: patlin

The same guy who filed this ballot challenge also filed one on Obama.


46 posted on 01/16/2012 12:34:00 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Obama Exposer

Any Congressman can enter something into the Congressional record. It happens all the time during hearings. You’ll get some blowhard spouting off and then they’ll say something about entering material into the record. I’ve read stories about some Congressman entering massive amounts of stuff into the record after a speech they’ve made. It doesn’t prove anything except one person had an issue with George Romney’s NBC status.


47 posted on 01/16/2012 12:37:54 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: patlin
1st & biggest problem this person has is they are quoting the WRONG law.

You're correct, patlin.

The originating poster, "Obama Exposer," is new and probably joined to spread this moonbat information to discredit FR.

48 posted on 01/16/2012 12:42:14 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion

FIY


49 posted on 01/16/2012 12:42:35 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Godebert

garbage and non sequiter.

there are only two types of citizen NOT three.

Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.


50 posted on 01/16/2012 12:42:44 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: newzjunkey
" let's accept the "Birther" definition of "natural born"

What, pray tell, is the "Birther" definition?

Is that the "ludicrous" common sense interpretation of being born of a U.S. Citizen mother, and U.S. Citizen father? You mean THAT "Birther Definition"??????

LOL

Minor v. Hapersett is not Case Law? Is not Scott v. Sanford Case Law?

Inquiring minds want to know, from one who brushes aside the issue.

51 posted on 01/16/2012 12:47:25 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Brilliant
My suspicion is that the courts will ultimately find that “natural born citizen” simply means that you were a citizen from birth.

They may "find" that, but that would be wrong. It means born as a natural citizen with no other allegiance.

52 posted on 01/16/2012 12:52:29 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Obama Exposer
As long as Romney's parents were US citizens at the time of his birth, he's good to go.

It doesn't matter if his parents had dual citizenship as long as one of them was US citizenship. Romney was born in the USA of two US citizens, so Romney is a NBC.

-PJ

53 posted on 01/16/2012 12:53:21 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Obama Exposer

Perhaps he’ll just Veep Romney, then we can have a pair of illegal socialist rowing the boat.
Get both the jerks off the ballots.


54 posted on 01/16/2012 1:00:12 PM PST by bksanders (Taglines - BOGO@www.tagme.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too

You say:

“It doesn’t matter if his parents had dual citizenship as long as one of them was US citizenship.”

What do you base this on?


55 posted on 01/16/2012 1:02:10 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: longtermmemmory
"garbage and non sequiter."

That you would call our Founding Fathers "garbage", tells me everything I need to know about you.

I intend to continue to uphold my sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

Is Being a Born Citizen of the United States of Sufficient Citizenship Status to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of Our Military? The Founders and Framers Emphatically Decided It Was Not!

56 posted on 01/16/2012 1:03:27 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: bksanders

I agree. I think it’s time for us to get a real true blooded patriotic natural born citizen conservative to enter the race, Sarah Palin. She would suck the air right out of Romney’s campaign no matter how much money he has.


57 posted on 01/16/2012 1:05:54 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Obama Exposer
I base it on that we don't hold children responsible for the sins of their parents.

NBC is a child born in the USA of citizen parents. I don't recall seeing a debate on when citizen parents hold dual citizenship, what does that mean to the child? Is the child of divided loyalty because the parents are?

I'm interested in reading more on this. We talked about when one parent does not hold US citizenship. We haven't talked about when a parent holds multiple citizenships, one being USA citizenship.

-PJ

58 posted on 01/16/2012 1:11:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Godebert

that’s it?

well it is established with only two types of citizens.

I suspect much of these tinfoil hat threads are just formented here to discredit conservatives just as many of the creationist threads are formented.

I don’t evel like romney and I can see this case is going to go nowhere fast. It is going to be giving the same credibility as the nutjob from rio linda running for president.


59 posted on 01/16/2012 1:13:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
there are only two types of citizen NOT three.

Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.

You left out the category of those who are born in another country of American Parents, such as Aldo Mario Bellei of Rogers v Bellei. You also left out derived citizenship. Prior to the Cable act of 1922 and the Women's citizenship act of 1934, any woman married to an American male obtained derivative citizenship from her husband automatically.

Also, for most of our History the Children of naturalized citizens obtained derivative citizenship from their father.

You seem to be of the opinion that this is all simple and cut and dried, but if you research the issue you will discover this is not at all the case. In ex parte Reynolds the court concluded that the sole governing factor was the citizenship of the father. They specifically invoke the principle "Partus Sequitur Patrem". (The Father's country is the child's country.)

60 posted on 01/16/2012 1:13:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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