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Labor Dept. withdraws farm child labor rule one day after Daily Caller report goes viral
Daily Caller ^ | 4/26/12 | Paul Conner

Posted on 04/26/2012 6:06:03 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: uncommonsense

We have lost many of our freedoms in this country because at some point some decided that there should be no risk in life. I came from a long line of risk takers and people who lived life to the fullest so this is a concept I have a hard time with. Is farming and ranching dangerous- well yes of course it is, but life itself is dangerous. Safety is a word that has been overused to pass laws that take our freedom. I believe our politicians use some people’s fear of life itself to take away our freedom. Some want a fantasy where we all live forever instead of people being allowed to make up their own minds what type of risk they want to take. People that ride bulls or jump out of airplanes know they can die doing it- but they also know they are living life to the fullest and don’t want it any other way. For those that think everyone should take it easy on their couch so no harm will come to them I would like to tell them they are free to lay on the couch, some of us want to really LIVE.


61 posted on 04/26/2012 10:41:21 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Nachum

Bm


62 posted on 04/26/2012 10:59:54 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me $h!t, w!th d!fferent fl!e$". :^)
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To: terycarl

Your country may be only 230 years old, but MY Country is far older than that.


63 posted on 04/27/2012 3:09:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum

CHEERS for now but I wonder if they’ll just re do the law like they forced abortion taxing on catholic and other churches/non profits orgs. I hope this sticks.


64 posted on 04/27/2012 8:41:33 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: TLI

I believe Mr. Obama once said: “I don’t do rural”.


65 posted on 04/27/2012 8:51:00 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: RedMonqey
There were farming communities cultivating this country(land) with corn, pumpkins and potatoes, to name a few, long before The founding Fathers ever put pen to paper to frame the Constitution. They were called Indians, or if you will, Native Americans.

not really...the indians were mostly hunter-gatherers..I don't recall them having an agricultural background....did they plow and plant ??? They ate a lot of what grew naturally, hunted the enormous amount of wildlife that were present here. The Europeans, when they came, established farming methods and actually reproduced agricultural products through their own efforts

66 posted on 04/27/2012 2:25:47 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: muawiyah
Your country may be only 230 years old, but MY Country is far older than that.

sorry...if you are of american indian descent, your people were defeated by an invasive force of Europeans. Much like virtually every other nation on earth, the effective use of force established what we have today. Look at the past few years...where is Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union,when someone else takes over ( usually by force) they are in control. While some may not agree, to the victor go the spoils...it has always worked that way and always will

67 posted on 04/27/2012 2:44:41 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
The very concept of the modern nation state was the outgrowth of the series of treaties created in what we know as "The Peace of Westphalia" ~ which ended the 30 years war. That's mid 17th century stuff.

My own country (from the standpoint of oldest traceable ancestors) was established about 541 AD by settlers from what are today Cornwall and Essex ~ and they can be traced to 245 AD.

They held their own until the late 1500s. One line went to Sweden right as that nation was being created and another to Spain shortly after the discovery of the Americas. Some of them still live there.

That's what a "country" can mean ~ now, regarding a specific organizational structure? That's not a country ~ that's a "system"

America started the day the first Scottish rebel was tossed overboard into the Potomac near Smuggler's Creek. It'd started even sooner for the first Jewish woman who was dropped off at Shodack Island rather than New York. And even further back, the year when DeSoto's men found out that America was not just big, it was bigger than anything they could imagine ~ that it wasn't just a bunch of islands.

1775 to 2012 is, of course 237 years, not 230, so which country is it that dates back only 230 years?

68 posted on 04/27/2012 2:55:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: terycarl
American Indians were the greatest agricultural innovators in world history right up to modern times.

Recent studies attribute the domestication of Japonica Rice to the Aleut people ~ it was developed in Coastal Alaska and taken to Asia in later centuries.

But right off the bat you have two great starch sources ~ potatoes and corn ~ as well as BEANS and SQUASH.

There are thousands of varieties of each ~ and there are numerous other species that were domesticated by Indians thousands of years ago.

The whole planet has but 6 known centers of plant domestication ~ one is the East Central region of North America (centered on Mammoth Cave) and another consists of the highlands of Central America (Mesoamerica) with a wide variety of climate zones arrayed vertically.

69 posted on 04/27/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: terycarl
American Indians were the greatest agricultural innovators in world history right up to modern times.

Recent studies attribute the domestication of Japonica Rice to the Aleut people ~ it was developed in Coastal Alaska and taken to Asia in later centuries.

But right off the bat you have two great starch sources ~ potatoes and corn ~ as well as BEANS and SQUASH.

There are thousands of varieties of each ~ and there are numerous other species that were domesticated by Indians thousands of years ago.

The whole planet has but 6 known centers of plant domestication ~ one is the East Central region of North America (centered on Mammoth Cave) and another consists of the highlands of Central America (Mesoamerica) with a wide variety of climate zones arrayed vertically.

70 posted on 04/27/2012 3:07:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RedMonqey

Covered that later. Without the agricultural developments of the American indians this world would probably be unable to to support more than 500 million people instead of its current 7 billion.


71 posted on 04/27/2012 3:11:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Covered that later. Without the agricultural developments of the American indians this world would probably be unable to to support more than 500 million people instead of its current 7 billion.

I think that the world ate just fine before the discovery of the "new world" I don't think that the American Indian had the concept of planting a seed to produce a crop. They, of course ate what the earth provided, but to assume that a race of people who had no concept of the wheel could have established an agricultural program is nonsense.

Immediately to their south were civilizations creating cities, pyramids, stone buildings, metal tools and weapons,and a civilization that compared with the rest of the world. I have american indian blood in many of my relatives, but the American Indian population were VERY basic human beings.

72 posted on 04/27/2012 7:49:48 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
You can discover all you need to know on the internet. Do so.

BTW, your thesis is readily discredited. Even in Eurasia where people had no knowledge of the wheel they managed to create domesticated food crops.

Frankly I think you are faking it.

73 posted on 04/27/2012 7:53:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: terycarl

BTW, the ONLY place South of the Americas is called Antarctica. The penguins live there. They’ve built no cities nor have they made metal tools.


74 posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Not without a team of highly-paid public bureaucrats supervising them.


75 posted on 04/28/2012 1:03:17 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Nik Naym
Here is a better idea: the government can go screw itself.

Seems appropriate.

76 posted on 04/28/2012 1:06:18 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: uncommonsense
Let them play their video games you rouge.

Taking away the work ethic is a successful way to turn the next generation into undisciplined brats.

77 posted on 04/28/2012 1:08:50 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: terycarl; muawiyah
not really...the indians were mostly hunter-gatherers..

terycarl

That is an stereotype.

You mistaken the roving tribes of the Western Plains for all Indians.
There were settled Indian tribes of the East, Central and South American cultures that did hunting as well but would have starved trying to sustain large populations off of "gathering and hunting" sustenance.

One only has to reflect upon Thanksgiving Day history when the local Indian tribe(the Wampanoag) taught the Pilgrims to catch fish and used them to help fertilize the poor soil they tried to use. Dirt mounds were created by hand using a wooden stick to break up the ground. Corn seeds were put into soft earth mounds covering the herring. A Western style plow only made the task simpler and less labor intensive.

The Central American civilizations developed what was essentially a weed with a large seed head into what is known today as "Indian Corn"

Ancient Peruvians did the same to what we know as the potato. They developed several varies to withstand different conditions.

All before Christopher Columbus was a sparkle in his father's eye...
78 posted on 04/28/2012 8:24:35 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: muawiyah
one is the East Central region of North America (centered on Mammoth Cave)

Went there in my youth. It was GREAT!!!

Never knew there was such a thing as blind fish and crawdads.

Beware of "Fat Man's Misery"

For those who never been there its a narrowing of one of the guided tours passages.

There was other so called passages which probably been dropped because of "Political Correctness"
79 posted on 04/28/2012 8:34:14 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, the ONLY place South of the Americas is called Antarctica. The penguins live there. They’ve built no cities nor have they made metal tools

cute....when you run out of intelligence, you resort to comedy....that's O.K.

80 posted on 04/28/2012 9:33:01 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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