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School withholds valedictorian’s diploma for saying “hell”
KFOR-TV ^ | August 18, 2012 | La'Tasha Givens

Posted on 08/21/2012 7:51:43 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: Red Badger

I have thought a lot about this.. She should apologize. It is a lesson in humility. When she wrote it, the rules were that it had to be approved by the administration. SHE KNEW THAT. She submitted it and it was approved. She changed it after the fact.

In life, when you break rules, the are consequences. If she did not like the rules, she should have complained before.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 8:24:57 AM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Brookhaven

Was that the case here?

There doesn’t seem to be any indication that it was.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 8:27:22 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So I suppose YOU thought that Billy Sunday was “Foul-Mouthed” to when he said “Hell”.


23 posted on 08/21/2012 8:27:43 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: servo1969

Hey! “Nootbaar” is my middle name!


24 posted on 08/21/2012 8:27:43 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: servo1969

Shoulda said “Washington.” We all know that place is hell.


25 posted on 08/21/2012 8:32:16 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Hildy

Just because there are rules does not mean they are good rules..........


26 posted on 08/21/2012 8:40:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: US Navy Vet

I am not a big fan of profanity and I think it should be discouraged.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 8:40:14 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: servo1969
"Well, first off I think she should have said it the way she wrote it. I can see why they might be slightly irritated with her."

Have you ever done any public speaking? I am an accomplished public speaker (I actually enjoy it). But, under the pressures of the moment, have experienced far worse mental lapses than replacing "heck" with "hell".

Once, speaking to an audience of about ninety (a small audience for me) on a subject on which I am a recognized expert, I twice referred to a friend as "Williams", instead of the correct, "Richardson". Something felt vaguely wrong, but, it wasn't until he pointed it out afterward, I realized what I had actually said...

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The girl is only a high school senior -- speaking to (probably) the largest audience she had ever faced -- at a high point in her life. Drop your holier-than-thou attitude -- and give the young lady a break!!

28 posted on 08/21/2012 8:41:45 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: servo1969

At least she is still learning something useful about government “administrators”


29 posted on 08/21/2012 8:44:24 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: servo1969

Prague, Oklahoma now has three notable things for their Tourist Bureau to brag about:

1. Prague is Jim Thorpe’s hometown.
2. A couple of earthquakes shook Prague last year.
3. The Red Devil’s valedictorian said “hell” in her address this year.

I find it difficult to get too excited about the number 3.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: TXnMA
If it was a mistake as you say, then she should just apologize as requested and then get her diploma and move on with her life.
31 posted on 08/21/2012 8:46:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Just a question: what makes ‘Hell’ a profanity? Is ‘Heaven’ a profanity as well? Is ‘Hades’ a profanity, or how about ‘Limbo’ or ‘Purgatory’? As far as I can determine they are no more profane than ‘Dallas’ which is only a profanity in Redskins territory.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 8:53:20 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: servo1969

A million people use the word hell everyday. There is really nothing offensive about it. The Bible says it a bazillion times.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 8:56:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Gay State Conservative; ecomcon; Hildy
My comment #28 is for all of you as well...

At the very least, the school should not be requiring one of its graduates to READ a "canned" speech -- when they should be preparing their students for extemporaneous speaking.

This story is all about micromanagement and control by a petty PC tyrant who should have the "heck" kicked out of him.

34 posted on 08/21/2012 9:00:22 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: servo1969

She should apologize and after they place the diploma in her hand she should say; “Now. . .ya’all can go to hell.”


35 posted on 08/21/2012 9:01:42 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Bob Buchholz

There is nothing wrong with the word “hell” when used in the proper context. Just like there is nothing wrong with the word “bitch” when used in the proper context.


36 posted on 08/21/2012 9:02:28 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Deliberately misleading the school with the text she submitted before the speech particularly egregious.”

YES! Finally someone who gets it. I don’t think any of us want to live in a society where 18 year old valdictorans might deviate from the state approved text of their speech. In fact, im not even sure why they get to write their own. It would be better if the school wrote it and she just delivered it. Wait, thats risky too. So maybe the the school should write it, and hire an actress who looks like her to read it.
The crime is that the kid who won valdictorian must submit their speech in advance so it can be censored to the tastes of the administration.
All power to the state! All because someone said hell. This is a joke.


37 posted on 08/21/2012 9:04:22 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ConservaTexan

Bingo.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 9:11:07 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: DesertRhino

so... you would approve of students shouting profanities and racial slurs or mooning the audience at a graduation ceremony?

heck! why not allow them to assult the principle while there at it!

heck! might as well allow them to grab their teachers ass!

/s


39 posted on 08/21/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: servo1969

I have to admit I am enjoying this, as Prague is the arch-rival to my sons’ school, and they were always obnoxious to us. As someone pointed out locally, the coaches there drop F-bombs constantly during the games, so it is sort of hypocritical. What a way to make national news.


40 posted on 08/21/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by Montanabound
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