Posted on 08/27/2012 5:41:38 AM PDT by SMGFan
The cost of a ban or fee on plastic bags in New Jersey would most likely be passed on to customers, representatives from Bergen County grocery stores said. The state legislature is weighing a number of bills limiting the use of plastic bags, including a proposal by Assemblyman John McKeon (D-Essex, Morris) that would impose a ban in 2017. Some stores, like Whole Foods, have already banned plastic bags. The grocery chain, which operates three stores in Bergen County, hasn't had plastic bags since 2006, Michael Sinatra, a spokesman for the company, said.
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The cost would “likely” be passed on to customers?
Let’s see. Let’s list the sources of revenue the stores have:
1. Customers
Yeah. It seems highly likely that customers will bear the cost of this new regulation.
Wasn’t it the environmentalist whacko’s who wanted us to use plastic bags instead of paper in the first place?
Dims .. justifying our collective derision at every opportunity
Yes, switched to plastic to save the trees. Montgomery County, MD requires stores to charge $0.05 per bag.
Some concern has been expressed of the reuse of bags in that harmful bacteria is retained and deposited on raw foods.
It’s truly amazing that taxpayers pay these fools to sit around and debate plastic bags when several CA cities are bankrupt, or, are about to be so.
Democrat governance is like a game of trivial pursuit.
Rabid environmentalism - by any other name - is communism.
If I got to the checkout with a cart full of groceries, and they had no bags, or wanted me to pay for the bags, I’d shove the cart aside and walk out...let the store re-shelve my cart full of stuff.
We can fight back in so many ways, if we try.
This is reality in San Jose. The stores charge $.10 per bag. I shop in nearby Campbell where the bags are still free.
Exactly. That's back when they were saving the rainforests.
And that's for plastic or paper bags. Even restaurants have to charge for plastic bags, though they're exempted from the charge for paper bags.
When they proposed this, they were trying to sell it as a "fee", though I rightly pointed out it was an excise tax, not a fee, since the government wasn't providing any form of service. Of course, now that it's passed and implemented, they have no problem calling it a tax.
They won’t remember or acknowledge that they were the reason for the use of plastic bags in the first place.
It’s all about feeling righteous for controlling the behavior of others.
I’m old enough to remember that too. They told us that the rainforests and the birds were all going to go away in ten years unless we immediately switched to plastic because we’re running out of trees. Plastic would also take up less landfill space too.
Now, we can no longer use plastic because it’ll destroy the environment, kill birds and take up landfill space. BUT if we pay a extra tax and purchase “reusable” bags, we will be saving the environment? next it will be product packaging like they did with the six-pack rings.
I don’t think these people hold a very high opinion of the human race because they want to regulate how much we can exhale too.
As a former grocery store worker (ie. stock-boy, bagger, floor mopper, general do-whatever-needs-doin') I can say for hauling groceries I'd rather go back to paper. Plastics are a pain in the neck (or lower) to get open, rip easily, and their one-size-fits-all approach stinks. We used to carry 3 sizes of paper bags and they had a lot of uses too.
I remember in high school when I was a sacker at the grocery store. The environmentalists were wacko over all the trees being killed by using paper bags. The chains moved to plastic bags albeit because of large cost savings. It only took a few years for the enviro-wackos to complain that the plastic bags were not biodegradable and they were clogging the landfills. Of course paper bags are biodegradable.....
It's even worse because it has a pink flower flap on top. I originally bought it for my wife but I am the one who is always pulling it. Still, I don't care. I am not carrying bags.
Oh, that's sooo "eighties".
Time to move on with another moneymaking "save the earth" con.
Don't try to follow their reasoning - you'll go blind.
Yes, they want to 'save' trees, even though trees are totally renewable. There was an old bumper sticker - "Split wood, not atoms" when they protested nuclear power.
Customers, huh?
Has a single one of the impossibly stupid people demanding the return to PAPER bags, ever thought of the millions of people who cannot handle overstuffed paper bags? People whose hands are “not what they used to be?”
The plastic bags I get groceries in have convenient “handles” that can be even be draped, 2 or 3 at a time over a wrist. “Customers” can reach into the cart and remove a single plastic bag, with one hand, and carefully put it in the car (or whatever). I remember paper bags tearing down the center, spilling everything all over the parking lot.
But then again, why should anyone consider the customer?
[groan]
It was the stupid EPA/tree-hugger faction that forced us to go to plastic bags in the FIRST place.
There was nothing wrong with paper ones. Trees are a renewable resource and enrich the soil as they decompose.... and I don't recall paper bags causing anyone to get e-coli like they do now from using unwashed cloth bags.
But that's what government DOES! It bloats itself by enforcing solutions where there is no problem, then bloats itself again by solving the problem the initial 'solution ' created.
And the People fall for it every time.
I understand the issue, but what, exactly prevents you from using handled bags for your convenience instead of forcing everyone else to convert to 'your' type of bag? It has NOTHING to do with considering the customer and EVERYTHING to do with using government to have it your way. That holds no matter what the 'issue' is.
No disrespect intended, but it should be up to the business to decide what types of convenience to provide. If you don't like what they provide, supply yourself or go somewhere else.
Last night when I went to the store I asked for paper bags. They had a new sacker. It was obvious that he did not have a clue as to how to put groceries in a paper bag. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad. I asked him if he took math in school and he said yes, but it wasn’t his best subject. They are so used to just throwing things in a plastic bag without any thought about how to properly fill a small rectangular space.
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