Posted on 11/16/2012 4:22:18 PM PST by Perseverando
Edited on 11/16/2012 9:39:01 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Considering proposal to make cooperation with specific program a crime
Presumably, a proposal being developed in Texas right now won’t be necessary should its petition on the White House website to secede from the union be successful.
But if not, the Lone Star state apparently wants to be prepared to challenge whatever it views as a federal encroachment on the rights of the state, or its citizens.
So it will be reviewing a legislative plan that not only would make it illegal to cooperate with the federal National Defense Authorization Act in Texas, but could make an offender subject to a year in jail and a $10,000 fine.
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Would be nice if some other states that were geographically connected like Oklahoma, Louisiana then Miss and AL created some sort of alliance with Texas. Not sure that Georgia would be on board but South Carolina would probably, in theory.
If nothing else, this sounds like a “full employment” program for high priced attorneys (on both sides).
I hate to say it but the 10th Amendment is a dead letter.
It will never pass, nor should it. A citizen of the United States should never be torn between obeying national laws vs state laws. Anyone detained under such circumstances would be able to rightly declare himself a political prisoner.
TEXAS HAS NOT PETITIONED FOR SECESSION. Some people signed some petitions.
That would be Texas state law and the lawyer to defend that law would be our State Attorney General Greg Abbott. He is not amused by Obama and Eric Holder.
“I hate to say it but the 10th Amendment is a dead letter.”
Not in Texas, it isn’t.
“I hate to say it but the 10th Amendment is a dead letter.”
I hate to say it, but the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th Amendments are dead letters. And have been for some time. And it’s not all Obama’s fault.
Same can be said of Article I Section 8.
But the 3rd Amendment hasn’t been usurped much.
The 17th amendment to the Constitution gutted state's rights. However, we are just awakening to the importance of a state's ability to nullify federal actions. The fight has just begun and it will be revived.
It will never pass, nor should it. A citizen of the United States should never be torn between obeying national laws vs state laws. Anyone detained under such circumstances would be able to rightly declare himself a political prisoner.
This law is unconstitutional,and therefore not legitimate. The State Governments are rapidly becoming our last line of defense against the Washington behemoth.
I am in favor of any and all efforts of the states to stand up to Federal Tyranny and ensure the blessings of liberty for their citizens.
“It will never pass, nor should it.”
Don’t think you should assume Texas won’t do it. I see you live in Texas. The legislative session starts in January and we’ll see what happens to this bill.
“Anyone detained under such circumstances would be able to rightly declare himself a political prisoner.”
Pretty hard to do when you are arrested at night by soldiers, flown to a secret prison, and held incommunicado with no rights to due process or an attorney.
We already have systems in place to challenge the constitutionality of laws. Placing people, individuals, citizens between feuding levels of government is not one of them.
Don’t hold your breath on this one
“It will never pass, nor should it. A citizen of the United States should never be torn between obeying national laws vs state laws”
If the Federal government becomes despotic and legalizes kidnapping, no citizen SHOULD be torn between obeying the despots and the constitution. Resistance with any means at hand is the moral answer. That includes using state governments to pass laws to protect you FROM the feds, Remington 870s, and rampant use of free speech and civil disobedience.
There are some 5,000 to 7,000 or so bills filed each regula legislative session. Only a portion of them will ever see the light of day on the House/Senate floor much less be enacted.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I am entitled to disagree.
The people are sovereign, and the system, and Federal government has not been responsive for some time.
I agree with Texas on this one. You may of course choose to disagree with me and let them ship you, your neighbor, or your family off to Gitmo or wherever they want to without due process.
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