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The Communist Party USA echoes President Obama's call for more gun control
Examiner ^ | December 17, 2012 | Robert Elliott

Posted on 12/17/2012 2:57:34 PM PST by FL2012

While most of the nation is still reeling from the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and continues to mourn the innocent victims, others are already working to exploit the horrific event for political gain. After all, as President Obama's former Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel once infamously said, "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste" because a crisis provides an "opportunity to do things that you think [sic] you could not do before."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; banglists; communism; communists; constrains; constraint; constraits; cpusa; democrats; guncontrol; guns; killcommunism; leftists; obama; sandyhookpolitics; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 12/17/2012 2:57:51 PM PST by FL2012
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To: FL2012

Well of course he does. Like Stalin and Mao can’t have the proletariat running around armed can you know. They may just take back the country.

2 posted on 12/17/2012 3:00:32 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: FL2012

“Power to the people..!”

Sure, so much they want the people to have NO GUNS.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 3:04:00 PM PST by gaijin
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To: FL2012

“Power to the people..!”

Sure, so much they want the people to have NO GUNS.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 3:04:07 PM PST by gaijin
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To: FL2012

Once Farmer Brown loses his shotgun, the red foxes will have the run of the chicken coop.

5 posted on 12/17/2012 3:10:16 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: FL2012

Barack Obama on Gun Control

Junior Senator (IL); President-Elect

Opposed bill okaying illegal gun use in home invasions
Hale DeMar, a 52-year-old Wilmette resident, was arrested and charged with misdemeanor violations for shooting, in the shoulder and leg, a burglar who broke into his home not once, but twice. Cook County prosecutors dropped all charges against DeMar.
In March 2004, the Illinois Senate passed Senate Bill 2165, a law introduced in response to DeMar’s case, with provisions designed to assert a right of citizens to protect themselves against home invasions, such that self-defense requirements would be viewed to take precedence over local ordinances against handgun possession. The measure passed the Illinois Senate by a vote of 38-20. Barack Obama was one of the 20 state senators voting against the measure.

Governor Rod Blagojevich vetoed the bill. On Nov. 9, 2004, the Illinois Senate voted 40-18 to override Blagojevich’s veto. Again, Obama acted against the bill.

On Nov. 17, the Illinois House voted overwhelmingly, 85-30, to override the governor’s veto and Senate Bill 2165 became law.

Source: Obama Nation, by Jerome Corsi, p.241-242 Aug 1, 2008

Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual’s right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?

A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don’t have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008

FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, “No, my writing wasn’t on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns.”
Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

Obama’s campaign said, “Sen. Obama didn’t fill out these state Senate questionnaires—a staffer did—and there are several answers that didn’t reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn’t reflect his views.”

Source: analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008

April 2008: “Bittergate” labeled Obama elitist
April 11th produced “Bittergate.” The Huffington Post website posted an explanation Obama gave at a private fundraiser in San Francisco of the challenges he faced with working-class voters in Pennsylvania and Indiana. “It’s not surprising they get bitter,” he said, referring to decades of constrained economic opportunities. “They cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Clinton said the remarks were “not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans.” McCain said Obama showed “breathtaking” elitism. Obama challenged the accusations, and noted in response to the charge of elitism that he had been raised by a single mother who relied on food stamps, but conceded he could have been more diplomatic.

Source: Obama for Beginners, by Bob Neer, p. 61 Apr 1, 2008

Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok
Q: You said recently, “I have no intention of taking away folks’ guns.” But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you’ve said that it’s constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it’s important for us to recognize that we’ve got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people’s traditions.

Source: 2008 Politico pre-Potomac Primary interview Feb 11, 2008

Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing
Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?
A: I don’t think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You’ve got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you’ve got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.

Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008

2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month
Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007

Concealed carry OK for retired police officers
Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent.
When I queried him about the vote, he said, “I didn’t find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done—and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms.“

It wasn’t until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.

Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007

Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities
Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?
A: You know, when the massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we’ve had 34 Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part, there has been silence. We know what to do. We’ve got to enforce the gun laws that are on the books. We’ve got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren’t loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they’re not made in our communities. There aren’t any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those 30-some children in Chicago who’ve been shot as we do the children in Virginia Tech. That’s a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don’t have it right now.

Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007

Keep guns out of inner cities—but also problem of morality
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturer’s lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do ew need to punish thatman for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there’s a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair.
Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006

Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban
KEYES: [to Obama]: I am a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where the crook have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves. I guess that’s good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes were broken into.
OBAMA: Let’s be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004

Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:•Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
•Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
• Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would: •Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
•Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
•Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
•Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
•Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices

Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

6 posted on 12/17/2012 3:10:57 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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I believe the left’s utterly predictable attempt to exploit the Newtown, Connecticut tragedy may backfire because it is crass and cynical. Obama saying appropriate things and wiping away a tear while saying them doesn’t hide the fact that he is a staunch socialist/communist and will try to use this horrible event to thwart American’s Second Amendment rights by imposing absurdly high federal ‘fees’ on gun licenses or other barely legal workarounds that subvert the constitutional right to own and bear arms. With 130 million gun owners in America, that may not go down quite as easily as Obama expects and using this tragedy won’t cover his real intent.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 3:12:41 PM PST by Jim Scott
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Source for prior post:

Both 0bama and H3ll voted to ban guns altogether at some point. Talk about target-rich irony.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 3:14:23 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Guns are a necessary evil enabling free citizens to stay free, as well as a constitutional right. (Besides, the news says there are an estimated 400 million firearms. Just how would any dictator-type propose to confiscate them?)

9 posted on 12/17/2012 3:16:27 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: FL2012

As Mao Tse-Tung once said, “All political power comes from the barrel of a gun,” so, of course the Communists in this country want to control all the guns.

Whoever controls the guns controls the country. We the people now control the guns and if we ever give up our guns we will give up our freedom at he same time.

Our Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they put the Second Amendment into our Constitution.

10 posted on 12/17/2012 3:20:29 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Time to close our borders to the commie freak nation to the south of us.

11 posted on 12/17/2012 3:44:53 PM PST by Catholic Canadian
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Well of course they would go for this...if the normal citizen is armed, it would make a take over much more difficult. Take fire arms away and all the citizen is left with would be bats and knives and stones...
I wonder when 0bama will come clean about who he really is?

12 posted on 12/17/2012 4:04:19 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Jim Scott

I believe the left’s utterly predictable attempt to exploit the Newtown, Connecticut tragedy may backfire because it is crass and cynical.

Last weekend was sickening. The Left media was politicizing the incident before the bodies were even cold. Figuratively speaking, the Left was jumping up and down with glee, saying “Kewl! Another opportunity to push the Agenda!”
Sick. Evil. Millstone. Neck. Deep blue sea.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 4:06:01 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: FL2012
I wonder if this will be visible.
14 posted on 12/17/2012 4:25:22 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: FL2012
Expect to see these if the commies get their way!

15 posted on 12/17/2012 4:25:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: FL2012
According to his facebook page, Adam Lanza’s was a Communist. Maybe that is the problem and we should just ban Communists. At very least they don't need guns. Let the collective handle that. Better yet, we'll keep the guns and they can keep their collectivist views.
16 posted on 12/17/2012 4:29:18 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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17 posted on 12/17/2012 4:35:53 PM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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“The Communist Party USA echoes President Obama’s call for more gun control”

Dont worry, its just a coincidence that these two are always on the same page.

18 posted on 12/17/2012 4:38:42 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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From the Communist website article:

“As the country grapples with the politics and aftermath of Sandy Hook, let us not forget that there are some who profit from the manufacturing and peddling of assault weapons, dealing in fear and offering constitutional and political cover for the unthinkable.

We will continue to work for bringing the necessary coalitions together that - through common sense and a common stance - work for a culture, government and country where such tragedies and crimes are indeed unthinkable and unheard of.”

19 posted on 12/17/2012 4:39:13 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: FL2012
I have an idea.

Anyone proposing that we surrender our firearms should be invited to go first.

As soon as they go first, just shoot them for being such a damn nuisance.

20 posted on 12/17/2012 4:43:47 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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