Posted on 02/10/2013 4:36:02 AM PST by lowbridge
Where to begin? We met with staff members from seven DC Senate offices on Monday. We had come to talk about the Indian Child Welfare Act and how it infringes on the right of children and parents.
But sitting next to this young woman, who comes from the same reservation as my husband… I realized there is so, so much more we all need to talk about.
She told how she was abused and used sexually as a child. She said she was first given to a man at the age of ten. Her sisters were also given to men. She told how she begged to be allowed to return to the only family she had ever felt safe with – the foster family that the tribe, through ICWA, had taken her from. She told how she tried to run away over a dozen times – to get back to the foster home where she knew she was loved. She told how the home where the tribal govt placed her made her destroy pictures of the family she loved, and how they had cut a rope to save her when she had tried to hang herself. It was only then that they finally allowed her to return to her true home.
The feeling in Congress and across much of America is that the tribal leaders can’t be messed with. Don’t you dare step on their toes.
Holy cow. I mean, literally, ‘holy cow.’
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It as long been in Indian culture to treat their women as slaves,live stock to be used as the male population sees fit.
For the past 60-70 years the left has told us how great the Native America culture was and is.
They have said are strengh is are diversity don't they mean it.
This paractice goes back thousands of years why it was only done away with when the evil invaders came.
Are the reservations a “sovereign nation” or not? If they are sovereign, they have their own laws, money, taxes and army. Also, a passport is required to enter and leave. They don’t get benefits from the USA.
So what are they?
“Why are we worried about Indian women.”
Because they are human beings. I can’t believe how calloused you are towards child sexual slavery. I hope you’re just ignorent and not a Christian person. If you are, shame on you. I’m incensed that you would rhetorically use children, indian or not, as props to score cheap political points against the left.
I have two beautiful daughters who are also members of the Choctaw Nation. That’s how the Good Lord saw fit to put them on this earth. Whenever we do activities, I try to talk up conservatism to people and maybe convert some minds of folks who have been fooled by leftist lies. People like you make that hard to impossible because you confirm every ugly stereotype that the left spreads about conservatives - ignorant, racist, hateful, hypocrite Christians, et. all.
It’s an embarassment. No wonder we lose elections.
Get mad at the people who promote this garbage that all society's are equal.
That no matter what they do its better then what the evil christian white man has done.
I believe the riverrunner is pointing out how the left has made this inevitable. He, just like you, would like to see an end to this, but it will only be through exposing the left’s vote gathering by “honoring” the native American tribes so called sovereignty.
The problems of sexual abuse, like the case mentioned in this article, and huge incest numbers, on the Reservations are abysmal. IMHO the reservations should be sold by the acre to whomever in the tribe of that reservation wants and can afford it. The moneys can go to whomever the tribe leadership wishes. Then there are no more people living on the reservations, just privately owned land in the United States, policed by city, county, state and federal law enforcement just like anyone else. The remaining land could be used by the tribes however they see fit. No more moneys from federal or state coffers, they gotta make it on their own, or pack up and leave to try their luck at something else. This should cause assimilation to the real world, and give the kids and women a chance.
“You don’t understand don’t get mad at me get mad at the leftest.”
You’re the one making ignorant statements here, not leftists.
“The feeling in Congress and across much of America is that the tribal leaders can’t be messed with. Don’t you dare step on their toes. “
A nation within a nation...it has never worked, it will never work. Talk about a population ‘in the shadows’!
“The feeling in Congress and across much of America is that the tribal leaders can’t be messed with. Don’t you dare step on their toes. “
A nation within a nation...it has never worked, it will never work. Talk about a population ‘in the shadows’!
“Why are we worried about Indian women.
It as long been in Indian culture to treat their women as slaves,live stock to be used as the male population sees fit.”
One of the problems is speaking of “Indian culture”, as if all tribes were the same. They were NOT. In the Cherokee culture, it was matriarchal and women always held places of high regard.
“I have two beautiful daughters who are also members of the Choctaw Nation. That’s how the Good Lord saw fit to put them on this earth. Whenever we do activities, I try to talk up conservatism to people and maybe convert some minds of folks who have been fooled by leftist lies. People like you make that hard to impossible because you confirm every ugly stereotype that the left spreads about conservatives - ignorant, racist, hateful, hypocrite Christians, et. all.
It’s an embarassment. No wonder we lose elections.”
Agreed!
“Why are we worried about Indian women.” are the words of a knucklehead, not a thoughtful discussion about the problems of the reservation. It simply plays into leftist stereotypes about republicans and hurts the cause of conservatism where we might otherwise change some minds.
If we all want the sad situation to change (and I think we all do), we do it by changing hearts and minds one at a time. Backhandedly dismissing people (and children no less) because they have fallen for leftist lies does more harm than good.
Believe me, I’m there actually talking to people on a fairly regular basis. I understand very well.
“One of the problems is speaking of “Indian culture”, as if all tribes were the same. They were NOT. In the Cherokee culture, it was matriarchal and women always held places of high regard.”
That’s a really good point Aunt B. I am still learning about the Choctaws, but am somewhat familiar with the pueblo tribes of New Mexico (my family is from near the Isleta pueblo) and the pueblo folks don’t “enslave” their women. In fact, given the problems there, the women seem to be the ones holding a lot of that culture together. As a kid, I remember the pueblo girls having to go to inside the house to help with make pottery, which was inevitably taught to them by grandmothers and moms.
I believe the Navajo are also matriarchal like the Cherokee you cite.
Dang, see what you miss when you broad brush people.
The Choctaw and Cherokee were very close, often intermarrying, and both were part of the so called ‘five civilized’ tribes.
It all was a story that needed to be told, so I did.
“Jesus Wept” An American Story
http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/
I’m on board with the changing hearts and minds mission, and the harvest is WAY bigger than the workers, if you know what I mean.
“...the harvest is WAY bigger than the workers, if you know what I mean.”
Indeed. The goal is to win people over.
For several years I participated on a joint domestic violence group with local county government and a local tribe. The issue is complex. The tribal folk felt that DV and abuse was not part of their traditions. It was introduced into their culture in the years of Indian Schools. During that time, children were taken from their parents and placed in an Indian School (usually run by whites) to learn white culture, English and a trade. Many were (sexually and physically) abused in those schools. This affected at least two generations and interrupted the passage of true cultural values and language.
The tribe recognized a huge problem. Unfortunately, men in power in the tribe were some of the worst offenders. We did find several programs that recognized tribal traditions and could be used.
The growth of tribal courts and the Indian Child Welfare Act does place these children outside of County CPS control. Past history with Indian schools is a part of the justification.
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