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DHS use DMV offices to build database with your photo,birth certificate & CCW info (MO)
Missouri Family Network ^ | 3/02/13 | Missouri Family Network

Posted on 03/02/2013 6:12:08 PM PST by listenhillary

In keeping with restrictions in State Statutes, and faced with federal encroachments of the 2005 Patriot Act, the Missouri Department of Revenue has been requiring Missouri citizens processing driver license applications and renewals to present what is commonly referred to as “source documents” to prove identity and residency. These required documents include birth certificates, Social Security numbers (in violation of original federal laws related to them), and any documents tracing legal name changes such as marriage and/or divorce documents. Alternative military documents are acceptable when applicable.

Despite assurances to the public that providing these source documents would be a “one time” imposition, last November DOR announced that those who had already been processed using these documents would have to do so again the next time they renewed their driver’s license. Why? Until recently your local licensing office has been directed to simply check off boxes on processing forms that a license or renewal applicant has produced and shown each of these source documents. However, we now understand that DOR has changed this process in direct violation of Missouri State Statues and is once again violating your personal privacy rights! Without seeking statutory approval, or even informing lawmakers or any legislative oversight – DOR has been retooling your local license office! They have been doing this without explaining themselves to the general public, and according to confidential sources they have been trying to avoid public scrutiny even to the point of refusing questions from local license office personnel!

One by one DOR has been removing the State’s driver’s license processing equipment from local offices and replacing it with equipment provided by National Homeland Security equipment. Local license office personnel are being instructed to use this equipment (in violation of State Statutes and citizen’s privacy). Once installed this equipment is used to take your picture for your driver’s license similar to the removed State equipment. But now your photo is being immediately sent into a national database. Then all of your source documents are being scanned with this equipment and sent into the federal governments central database also! This is contrary to Missouri Law! With DOR removing the state’s equipment, your local licensing office has no options but to comply.

Additionally we are hearing from some folks that any and all additional documents, brought in by individuals unsure of what is needed for processing, are being scanned and included. And, if you are one of the thousands of citizens who only use a post office box rather than a physical mailbox, you are automatically labeled with a fraud alert!

To make matters worse. You will no longer receive your driver’s license on the spot as has been with the state’s efficient equipment. Instead you will be provided a “temporary” license until your permanent one arrives in the mail from a third party vendor. What is unclear is who is paying the third party vendor, apparently in a seeming ruse to make it look like everything is being directed from within the State. We believe this is to distract attention from the involvement of the federal Homeland Security and their issuance and/or control of everyone’s new “Enhanced Driver’s License” (see Homeland Security website page enclosed below). Note the primary purpose of all this is to include a readable chip in your driver’s license which leads back to a federal government database containing a variety of details and information violating your privacy rights and the religious convictions and liberties of those who hold such beliefs.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013, the Missouri Senate Transportation Committee held a public hearing on Senate Bill 252 (http://www.senate.mo.gov/13info/pdf-bill/intro/SB252.pdf) which seeks to strengthen current laws against what DOR is doing. SB 252 was introduced by Senator Will Kraus (republican, Dist. 8, Lee’s summit). During the hearing MFN was the only witness to provide public testimony on the bill. In that hearing MFN President Kerry Messer quoted one of the State Statutes prohibiting DOR from doing the things now being required of local licensing offices. MFN outlined some of the direct violations of law DOR is engaged in. MFN outlined the illegal changes in DOR procedures, testifying (in part):

“Missouri Revised Statutes, Chapter 32.091.7 clearly states two prohibitions on the Missouri Department of Revenue without “specific statutory authorization”. First is that the Department “shall not collect” individually identifying information on driver’s license applicants, which the Department is requiring of local license offices by requiring them to scan personal source documents without any other options for processing driver’s licenses. Secondly the Department is prohibited from including “any information by which an individual may be identified, unless the department has specific statutory authorization”, which is also being violated by the Department. In this second violation the Department is requiring local licensing offices to provide scanned documents to a federal database that can be cross-referenced through an embedded microchip containing a personalized reference number that may be used to access whatever prohibited information the federal agency chooses.”

Yes, that’s right, not only is the magnetic strip once again being used for improper purposes, but now DOR is authorizing an RFID chip to be implanted into your license card! While Homeland Security claims this is secure because only a reference number will be on the chip, this individualized number traces back to the federal government’s file containing all your source documents (and who know what else). Citizens’ confidence in this security is understandable questionable in light of the common news reports of computer hacking, including government databases. The fact that your new “Enhanced Driver’s License” comes in a protective slip cover to minimize illegal readings is of little comfort.

More at the link http://missourifamilynetwork.net/


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Admin moderator - there is no good title to this article.

Our DMV are referred to as DOR (Department of Revenue) offices and are quasi-privatized. Not sure exactly how it works, if bids are submitted to operate the offices? What is concerning is the DHS sticking their nose into this and trying to keep it under the radar.

From the article "What is our source of information on this breaking news? Our information is coming from confidential sources who work in local license offices, but who are scared to go public."

1 posted on 03/02/2013 6:12:12 PM PST by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

What were really need is a database of all federal agents including name, address and photo photo id


2 posted on 03/02/2013 6:15:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: listenhillary

What I don’t get is while DMVs all of the US are requiring more documentation from legal citizens, illegal immigrants (and by definition “undocumented”) can waltz right in and get a driver’s license without any problems.

For example, DPS in Texas won’t accept CAC cards or retired ID cards as proof of military status. You need a dd214 and/or military orders to get the “veterans” designation on your license (it matters, you get discounts on stuff).


3 posted on 03/02/2013 6:23:58 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

When renewing ten years ago in CT, I was asked for my SSN by a DMV clerk and I refused. They said, doesn’t matter we already have it in here !!!??

Note: Im 2007, I decided to be a good citizen (you know help out in hurricane or disaster) and get my Federal ham radio license. I passed the tests and the radio people said the feds won’t issue me or anyone a ham/amateur license with a SSN on the application. Another smart radio op said its all about child support. Another in your face violation of citizen rights.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:05:50 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: listenhillary

When are the going to demand this for illegal aliens, undocumented/illegal voters, Islamic extremists and usurping presidents? Especially when they’re all rolled up into one.


5 posted on 03/02/2013 7:06:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: listenhillary
Maybe "Mad" Maxine isn't as crazy as everyone says she is...

Maxine Waters: Obama Has a Database on Everything About Every Individual

6 posted on 03/02/2013 7:12:03 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: George from New England

George you stated, “...I passed the tests and the radio people said the feds won’t issue me or anyone a ham/amateur license with a SSN on the application.”

Just to clarify, are you saying “without a SSN?”


7 posted on 03/02/2013 7:19:52 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: listenhillary

They could save valuable database storage space by just giving us all the name Winston Smith.


8 posted on 03/02/2013 7:21:48 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Jim Robinson

Those are the model citizens of the new republic, so no additional documentation is required. It would not be tolerant and progressive to insist on such documentation.

We, the defenders of the old republic, must be watched very carefully. /SARC

It seems many on the left fear the Tea party more than the Muslim Brotherhood. I can’t believe the level of idiocy required for that kind of thinking.


9 posted on 03/02/2013 7:22:35 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: listenhillary

Makes perfect sense that authorities that cannot even begin to keep track of illegals, even the hardened criminals among them; furthermore won’t try...can and will track all of us.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 7:23:00 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: listenhillary

Well that kind of sucks, big time!


11 posted on 03/02/2013 7:23:05 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: listenhillary

They didn’t ask for anything new when I went in for my CCW. I just gave her my driver’s license and she verified the info. When did they start replacing equipment? Maybe smaller towns aren’t being messed with yet?


12 posted on 03/02/2013 7:25:45 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: listenhillary

Please link to the actual text in the future, your link just goes to the home page of URL.

Post the link on the thread or hit the abuse button and give it to us that way.

Thanks


13 posted on 03/02/2013 7:26:08 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: listenhillary
As I've always said, they don't need a "gun registry" - they already have one, in spades.

Gun enthusiast and writer/director John Milius ("Conan the Barbarian") was well aware of this, as he portrayed in his film "Red Dawn", as the KGB officer asks the Cuban general how to find out which Americans have guns:


14 posted on 03/02/2013 7:30:27 PM PST by montag813
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To: listenhillary

I see. I was renewing my car tags a few weeks ago and they were installing new drivers license equipment. Cameras, computers and such.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 7:36:48 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: listenhillary; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

16 posted on 03/02/2013 7:36:48 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: listenhillary

RFID tags can be read at 20-30 feet

ie: street lights


17 posted on 03/02/2013 8:05:02 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: George from New England

No good deed goes unpunished.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 8:14:44 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen, brother!


19 posted on 03/02/2013 9:30:23 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: null and void

Oh man it is just getting weirder and weirder


20 posted on 03/02/2013 10:19:48 PM PST by Nifster
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