It's Not Cool To Cherry Pick Scripture

Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | David Limbaugh

[Elsie]

Some on FR would complain about cherry picking even if an entire chapter is posted!!

ANYthing that shows THEIR ‘interpretation’ is wrong is considered to be cherry-picking.

[Elsie]

Everything you need to know about how Jesus would treat homosexuals is in John 8:1-11.

Oh??

Let's just see:

 

John 8:1-11 (NIV)

 

 
1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
 
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

 

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
 
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
 
11 “No one, sir,” she said.

 

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

[Elsie]

Let's just see:

Looks good; but the key verse is the LAST one:

“Go now and leave your life of sin.”

If one does NOT do that; then all bets are off.

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Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

People I know have their finger on the concordance button at first hint there is a chance to show off.

While others know the Book like the back of their hand.

[Elsie]

Every time in the past that God has become angry with human behavior he has wreaked havoc upon the world. Sodom and Gomorrah for example.

Belief leads to behavior

[Elsie]

1 Thess 4:1-8

1 Finally, then, brothers, we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, just as you are doing, that you do so more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. 7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. 8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

[Yosemitest]

Have you ignored John 1:1-18 with your focus on John 8:1-11 ?

Let's examine this.

"In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by Him;
and without Him was NOT any thing made that was made.
In Him was life;
and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of the Light,
that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light,
but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
He was in the world,
and the world was made by Him,
and the world knew Him not.
He came unto His own,
and His own received Him not.
But as many as received Him,
to them gave He power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on His name:
Which were born,
not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.

John bare witness of Him, and cried , saying,
This was He of whom I spake,
He that cometh after me is preferred before me:
for He was before me.
And of His fulness have all we received,
and grace for grace.
For the law was given by Moses,
but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
No man hath seen God at any time;
the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father,
He hath declared Him."even to them that believe on His name:"

Now,

after taking a closer look at John 1:1-18,
WHO do you think declared ( ? ):

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
THEY SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH;
THEIR BLOOD SHALL BE UPON THEM."
WHO do you think declared ( ? ):

" Who knowing the judgment of God,
that THEY which commit such things ARE WORTHY OF DEATH,
not only do the same,
but have pleasure in THEM that do them."

Was it not "the WORD", or as we know Him, Jesus Christ ?

[foreverfree]

Resurrection bump

[mitch5501]

"Belief leads to behavior"

Well now that would depend on how you defined 'belief'.If you defined it as something along the lines of mere mental assent you probably wouldn't agree that it effects behaviour that much.Hence the label...'easy-believism'.Many seem to think exactly that and that the work of God is altering your behaviour.It's not necessarily what you say you believe or even what you think you believe that will determine what you actually believe.It's what you do that will tell others and yourself what you really do believe.

A long,hard,brutally honest look at the wretched man in the mirror will quickly reveal why the "work of God" is to believe.

[RobbyS]

God allows us to sink under the weight of our sins. All we have to do is refuse the outstretched hand he offered to Peter.

[Resettozero]

Nice. Hadn’t thought of it in those terms.

[RobbyS]

The story of Christ walking on the waters is a perfect illustration of the doctrine of Infallibility. Since Paul Vi, the pope have progressively divested themselves of imperial trappings. Benedict reverted to the central role of a bishop, which is to reach the faith. I remember with amusement a story about Augustine. The congregation loudly demanded that he take his place and teach them. He was pissed, but did it anyway.

[RobbyS]

Faith is perfect trust in God. Easy to define, hard to live to live up to that.

Our attitude is not. They will be done, but “MY will be done.” Hey, Santa God, I expect that bike for Xmas!”

[metmom]

Well said.

Thanks for the ping