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Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequester.
The Washington Post ^ | April 3, 2013 | Sarah Kliff

Posted on 04/03/2013 4:02:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: The Working Man

“to deny cancer treatments *JUST* because of money makes my blood boil.”

do you advocate increasing taxes to pay for cancer treatments or borrowing from the future or cutting spending

please don’t say cut waste and abuse.


41 posted on 04/03/2013 10:46:17 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: gorush
Throwing good money at attempting to disprove that theory seems ludicrous.

Sure, In the words of that famous Surgeon General. They would jus probably die of something or the other anyway.

You really want to align yourself with this moron?

42 posted on 04/03/2013 11:39:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: super7man
I just want to finish well.

Get a head start, exit now. Take some of your humanist/libertarian friends with you, heck throw an exit party.

43 posted on 04/03/2013 11:42:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: scriptuser
if frantically trying to keep everyone alive for 95 or 100 years or more is absolutely necessary.

If that doesn’t work then try 80 to 95, then shucks 60 to 70, and when the kids get in charge 30 might seem reasonable.

44 posted on 04/04/2013 1:08:07 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: staytrue
please don’t say cut waste and abuse.

That would be a good start. If we are willing to deny care why not just start up the Soylent green rooms.

45 posted on 04/04/2013 1:11:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: grumpygresh

I had my Chemo Treatment at my Oncologist’s Office.

My 90 Year Old Father has the same Oncologist (for Lymphoma)and he just sent him in for a CAT Scan.

I have read that Medicare will start to cut back on funding Radiology Testing for Patients over 75. Could just be hearsay, but I am starting to wonder why the Dr. sent my Dad in for testing. His Blood work was a little low, but no Lymph Node swelling or complaints.


46 posted on 04/04/2013 1:23:59 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: mountainlion

Yet, seniors keep electing them. I suspect that as they turn on the pretty music, dim the lights and show you the flower movie that right then seniors will begin to suspect something’s up.

“Soylent Green is progress”


47 posted on 04/04/2013 2:56:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
City people have a built in bias for socialism. Socialism provides them with water, sewer, trash, roads...
I have to take care of my own road. I haul my own water. I get none of the social privileges that city people get. I pay for city peoples mail to be delivered and have to drive 5 miles for my own mail. I pay for roads for others and seldom use them myself. I paid into social security also. Democrats and rePUBlican took $13.4T form the funds that should be used for medicare and social security. I did not vote for Obama, I do not vote for gun grabbers. I am a victim of the government and a senior citizen.
48 posted on 04/04/2013 5:46:29 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: cherry

Actually, he was not ready to go and wanted every procedure possible.

It was his call but he suffered a great deal as a result.

I have no idea what I will want if I end up where he was but right now for me, it does not seem right.


49 posted on 04/04/2013 6:03:51 AM PDT by super7man
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To: eCSMaster

Yep. My thoughts too. It is Obamacare.


50 posted on 04/04/2013 8:00:07 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: silverleaf

The sequester is not to affect SS or Medicare. This article is a LIE. I am surprised people are falling for it. They are trying to blame the cuts on Republicans, when it has nothing to do with the sequester.


51 posted on 04/04/2013 8:03:21 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
The GOP is mad. Stark raving mad.

They have allowed themselves to be put in this situation. Not just allowed, but jumped in to it.

If they keep playing money games like this, they will no only loose the House, but allow the Dems to get a super majority.

52 posted on 04/04/2013 8:40:40 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Loose=lose.
Good I hate auto correct.


53 posted on 04/04/2013 8:45:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: cherry

I’m sad my mother had to die a slow death....I wish we had pushed her to get chemo and all that ...but it was her choice...

even though I am totally against prolonging life just because you can, there is also something called giving “hope” to the very ill....

...I was in the same situation with my mother, who had ovarian cancer that did not respond to carboplaten treatments, and her alternative was a more lethal cocktail of chemotherapy that scared the crap out of her...both she and I believed the cocktail would have done nothing for her, and she chose to face her fate on her own terms, though that made for a very tough month and a half at the end...she was a few days short of 83 when she died, and she’d had enough...
...it is of course sad, that a decision like this has to be made, to waste away with terminal illness or poison yourself in hopes of poisoning the disease, but, that’s what we’ve got...


54 posted on 04/04/2013 10:14:06 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: itsahoot

Who knows at this point? What I think is clear is that as a nation it looks like we are getting to the point where we have to choose between remaining as a world superpower and supporting science and research or being the caretaker of all the nation’s elderly, because doing all this at once will simply be completely impossible. I think anyone who thinks the US will ever be able to afford to police the world and be responsible for taking care of all our old people is living on a completely different plane of reality.


55 posted on 04/04/2013 11:30:00 AM PDT by scriptuser
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To: scriptuser
we have to choose between remaining as a world superpower and supporting science and research or being the caretaker of all the nation’s elderly,

Hitler had the same argument, looks like you have arrived.

Are you sure that is where you want to be on that issue?

56 posted on 04/04/2013 12:51:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

I don’t think Hitler is the only one who has arrived at that argument. Pretty much every other nation in the world today has either had to make that decision or face inevitable collapse. If we want to have our federal gov’t in charge of ensuring that everyone can live to be 95 or older, whether they can afford it or not, and be providing Medicare even to Senior Citizens who can afford it, or who have relatives who can afford it, we will lose much of our military’s ability to combat enemies at home and overseas. And if we still want be able to police the world and give out Medicare on demand, well forget about it. That is not going to happen. If we want all of our elderly to have access to Medicare, it is becoming clearly that it will come at a cost of us losing any status we had as a world superpower. And we will certainly not be able to afford to undertake all of the military operations that some conservatives want us to do. This is reality. Unicorns, fairies, elves and magic don’t actually exist and we as a nation will not be able to do everything.


57 posted on 04/04/2013 1:06:16 PM PDT by scriptuser
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To: super7man
Sorry for your loss. But anyone who chooses to do so can refuse heroic treatments and let nature take its course. You are free to "finish well" if you want to.
58 posted on 04/04/2013 1:29:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
First, the sequester was obomas idea. People aren't reminding the voters of that little fact.

Second, Medicare wasn't part of the sequester.

Third, obomacare cut Medicare by $7+ BILLION dollars. That's why they're being turned away - obomacuts.

59 posted on 04/04/2013 1:30:08 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Since the yearly Medicare budget number is 523 bil, that’s about a 1% cut.


60 posted on 04/04/2013 1:33:15 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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