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U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect (Hold on to your Hats!)
longislandpress.com ^ | May 14, 2013 | Jed Morey

Posted on 05/15/2013 8:16:47 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: kimtom

Uhmmmmmm .... K...

Not gonna happen as alluded to by the author. That would required an extraordinary command structure and mindset that doesn’t exist and would make whatever problems that left these commanders feeling enabled with a bigger set if problems.

Besides, in all instances nationwide the police and military are severely outnumbered and they couldn’t possibly field the resources necessary topprevail and the consequences for them would be to severe.

No, if it did happen it would be in very limited areas that probably would require their protection such as DC and military sites.


21 posted on 05/15/2013 9:06:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Gaffer

Absolutely. SWAT LEO and other GI JOE are gonna get exhausted tell quick carrying around theirlow rider gear.

They’ll start tossing that junk when the effects of movement while weighted down make em miserable.

They’ll do it for a day or two but, after that ... They’ll start selling em if they have to..

That crap adds 30% more weight and it’s on the front of the weapon .

It has it’s place but...


22 posted on 05/15/2013 9:13:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I’ve spent some time with ‘operators’ who have had to trek into areas where they are at extremely high risk. They sometimes wore bernooses, rode camels/donkeys. They had to carry packs that weighed about 140lbs.

Not one of these Rambo’s I’ve seen immortalized in the minds of our liberal media as ‘protectors’ could even get out of the damned armored van that brings them to the scene with that load.


23 posted on 05/15/2013 9:19:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DoughtyOne
This is unconstitutional.

How quaint!

24 posted on 05/15/2013 9:24:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: kimtom
The military is being rapidly transformed with the Christians to be or being forced out and replaced by homosexuals and females. Both groups are consciously already traducing very basic principles of Judaeo Christian civilization and would have a much easier time machine gun spraying an auditorium full of unpolitically correct citizens than the troops we all think of as our sons in uniform.

Hitler made enthusiastic use of male homosexuals to staff his Praetorian guard because they were much more willing to slaughter whomever the were told to kill. Women who sign on for front line duty have the same lack of qualms. The officer corps has been involved in ongoing purges of "unreliable" men, men who are suspect of being averse to shooting down American citizens.

25 posted on 05/15/2013 9:33:46 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Rapscallion

No, but we need to support the Constitutional guidelines, even if this guy is completely out of his depth.


26 posted on 05/15/2013 10:48:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: arthurus

Well, some folks think so. We don’t.


27 posted on 05/15/2013 10:49:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: arthurus
"..The officer corps has been involved in ongoing purges of "unreliable" men, men who are suspect of being averse to shooting down American citizens..."

I do not question the truth of it, but can you find articles supporting it??? :)

i.e. Our military ranks being subverted......add posts

Good point though

28 posted on 05/15/2013 1:50:58 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Every Democrat president purges the officer corps. Carter and Clinton both did it. Clinton was overt as hell about it and used the Navy Convention “Tailhook” to hang the operation. that one wound up with at least one probable murder and a couple of convenient suicides. T most visible result of the purges is the difficulty fighting wars for a time afterwards as in Iraq(after Clintjn). The first onslaught did wonderfully well but that was firepower and speed. Afterward we got bogged down and were losing ground until finally the fresh blood proved itself on the battlefield and rose to the top. About then came the surge and you know the rest. Without the surge the troops were already improving the situation because they finally had battle experienced competent officers. Competent officers get replaced by reliable bureaucrats whose military talents consist in sucking up to politicians and implementing stupid politically correct requirements.


29 posted on 05/15/2013 3:40:14 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: arthurus

excellent observation


30 posted on 05/16/2013 3:31:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: arthurus

” About then came the surge and you know the rest. Without the surge the troops were already improving the situation because they finally had battle experienced competent officers. Competent officers get replaced by reliable bureaucrats whose military talents consist in sucking up to politicians and implementing stupid politically correct requirements.”

This is a popular myth which needs to be dispelled. It does not credit the decision makers and servicemembers who defeated the insurgency.

Look, I was there at that time. Due to frequently having to travel across Iraq I took particular interest in Iraq strategic issues. I read the daily BUAs and SIGACTS and was always aware of the threatcon.

I want to make this clear about the “Surge”. In December, 2006 80+ attacks were occuring per day which was the long term norm. In mid-December, 2006, just after Gen Petraeus was selected to command in Iraq and prior to Surge troop arrivals several Iranian “diplomats” were aprehended and detained by (non-Surge) US forces. Several Iraqi PMs made a lot of protestations over the aprehensions, demanding release, etc.. The next day attacks against Coalition and Iraqi forces went to 11. By the end of the week attacks were below 10 and remained low throughout the Surge.

The Surge was prefaced by arrest and deportation of the insurgents’ Iranian pay masters. After that Coalition and Iraqi forces simply ejected the unpaid Jihadis. That is the Surge. I credit Gen Petraeus and Special Operations Command for the success of the Surge.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 4:25:20 AM PDT by Justa
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To: kimtom
This is not the President Obama we voted for

The article that you posted was linked in the first paragraph.

32 posted on 05/19/2013 12:16:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Perseverando

It would seem to me the effort would be too execute a coup de’tat


33 posted on 05/19/2013 2:53:20 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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