Say NO to GMOs in Your Food

Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2013 | Chuck Norris

[Black Agnes]

I hope they continue to eat these foods then. And feed them to their children. There will, ultimately, be fewer of these people.

The grant proposals on the Gates Foundation website are just chilling. Chilling.

[surroundedbyblue]

I absolutely agree. Estrogenic soy in our diet is a huge problem. But I think it’s only one piece of the puzzle. Growth hormones play a part too

[tx_eggman]

Eat local and organic, period.

So, that'll feed about 600milliion people ... how do you proposed to feed the other 6.4 billion?

[Black Agnes]

You’ve bought the ‘do it our way or you starve all the little children’ line.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2013/feb/16/india-rice-farmers-revolution

“In a village in India’s poorest state, Bihar, farmers are growing world record amounts of rice – with no GM, and no herbicide. Is this one solution to world food shortages?”

Most of the 3rd world poverty comes from the small plot holders inability to afford ‘green revolution’ inputs. Special seeds, herbicides, pesticides and fertilizers cost money. Money they don’t have because they don’t have the amount of land necessary to generate that profit. Until now it’s been a circular means of failure for them.

[Aussiebabe]

This would make Greenpeace very happy if the people who eat GM foods would not populate, so they should support GM crops...the reasoning is not logical, so they should support GM good if they really believe GM food would stop population growth. The facts are that GM crops have been around now for 30 years without any scientific evidence of any harm (and most tested foods of any in history) and Greenpeace and Friends of Earth (from the UK) make big money from the anti-GM movement. Follow the money and you will see the Greens and companies like Whole Foods are big winners from the anti-GM movement. Also all the progressive politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer are big supporters of this movement.

[tbpiper]

Local? That would really limit your diet if you live in the desert.

Straw man argument, but yes, it can work in the desert.

They “harvested” 12 million chickens a day, except for holidays and weekends. That’s why chicken is dirt cheap and universally available.

CAFO's like this are prime breeding grounds for enhanced pathogens. That's how we got whe H1N1 version of E-coli and why those types of operations have to load up on antibiotics(how do you like eating that with your cheap chicken.?)

If we get the governmental regulators out of the local farmers hair and let them do what they do best, we can meet our food needs with food that is actually tasty and good for us.

The result these activists are looking for is eliminating a large swath of the population through starvation.

Total BS. Look at the people behind the GMO's and their agenda.

[surroundedbyblue]

“Perhaps you need to do a little research before you reach a baseless conclusion. For example:
- have you taken into account the increase in lifespan (lifespan has increased 10 years since 1960, from 67 to 77)? As we have gained greater knowledge about life risks, things like herat disease kill less people, allowing us to live longer and become more susceptible to diseases that primarily afflict older people, such as Parkinson’s disease.
- Or possibly that medical science has greatly increased its ability to detect medical issues and label them, whereas before they were attributed to natural causes?
- In 1960, food represented 30% of an average American family’s budget. Now it is 12%.”

I have taken lifespan into consideration. But that’s not what I’m talking about. Have we ever seen the rate of type II diabetes that we see now? Have we ever seen early-onset, precocious puberty at the rates we see now? No! How about all the endocrine disorders that are appearing in young children? Where are those things coming from??

As far as the cost of food, cheap isn’t always better. We’re mass-producing food that contains chemicals & by-products that are destroying our health. And I don’t see many FReepers here who seem to give a damn. Instead, I’m called a lefty, a “greenie”, etc. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I just wish to be left alone to eat what I want, grow what I want, and be informed about what’s in the food I’m eating.

For a bunch of free-market, freedom-loving conservatives to be so opposed to that truly stuns me.

[UnwashedPeasant]

When GMOs are allowed to exist, there is no free choice to eat natural food because GMOs contaminate the food supply.

[Black Agnes]

Greenpeacers are ultimately hippies. But even they are starting to get the picture that the big population control wackjobs aren’t JUST trying to control the populations of those black and brown people on far off continents.

They mean to control population here, at home, in the US as well. THAT’s what has the Greenpeacers and hippy types up in arms. It’s ‘OK’ for the population in Africa or South America to be ‘controlled’ in the name of saving the planet. They didn’t think it would be them too.

Do browse the grant publications on the Gates Foundation website. I fail to see how any pro-life individual can support Microsoft after having read those...

[Mr. Lucky]

Of your many problems with this subject is the fact that your information is 3 years out of date.

897,000 shares would have represented 1.5% of Monsanto stock. The actual largest shareholder of Monsanto, with a little over 6% ownership, is FMR, an investment fund controlled by the Johnson Family. Although not nearly as intriguing as rumor and innuendo, current ownership records are easily found at sites such as Yahoo Finance.

[Aussiebabe]

p.s. also notice that this posted article, is from The Guardian, one of the UK’s most leftist, progressive newspapers that have led the anti-GM movement for years and is a huge supporter of Friends of Earth, who lead the support for banning GM crops and have supported the burning of GM corps in testing....they could care less about labelling. Like all far-left movements, they are not about choice, they really want to tell you what you can eat and do....they want to control our lives.

[tx_eggman]

In a village in India’s poorest state

One village in India is your answer ???

[Black Agnes]

Then YOU eat the GMO’s. Feed them to your kids, your grandkids and your pets! Mangia mangia!

As I said before, just because the left opposes them does NOT mean they are great things. The enemy of your enemy isn’t always your friend.

ALL the global elites want you gone. Your kids too. And your grandkids. It isn’t a left or right proposition. If it were, the biggest supporters of this tech, Obama supporters BTW, wouldn’t be so invested in population control.

[sunny48]

GMO seeds have been genetically modified to produce their own pesticide, survive the spraying of Roundup and self terminate. They are also incredibly expensive compared to traditional seeds. As a result, farmers in India were forced into total dependence on Monsanto by having to purchase new seeds annually. Because of Monsanto’s ruthless drive to use India as a testing ground, 125,000 farmers took their own lives after being driven into a hopeless cycle of debt and losing their lands and homes.GMOs, which were never adequately tested for safety, have failed catastrophically. At least 70% of our food contains genetically engineered food brought by Monsanto. GMO is endangering our health and environment at an alarming rate. Cross contamination is irreversible and good organic crops are being jeopardized.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto

[Black Agnes]

Great reply. Gives me the opportunity to post a link I meant to but forgot:

http://sri.ciifad.cornell.edu/index.html

Hardly one village in India.

http://sri.ciifad.cornell.edu/countries/index.html

Lots of nifty pictures. Especially interesting are the before (using green revolution techniques and planting criteria) and after using SRI techniques.

[MamaTexan]

Something happening like that naturally in nature is far different from some mad scientist in a lab splicing viral DNA into a crop.

Exactly! I can't help but remember back when animal fats were 'bad', so they started making all vegetable oil, then WHOOPS! hydrogenated vegetable oil and creating trans fats turned out to be even worse!

Now there using DNA in seeds like tinkertoys without a CLUE as to what the long-term affect of their tinkering on the people will even be.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[Black Agnes]

Your post that Gates didn’t own any stock was erroneous. He does, via his Foundation.

[sunny48]

“Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.’s job” - Philip Angell, Monsanto’s director of corporate communications. “Playing God in the Garden” New York Times Magazine, October 25, 1998

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto

[Aussiebabe]

If it isn’t a leftist/progressive movement, why are all the leftists politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer big supporters of banning GM crops? Why are all the progress Green groups like Greenpeace, Sierra Club and Friends of Earth the major movers of this agenda? Just go back and look at who contributes money to this movement and you will find 90% of it comes from the far left. This is really a form of fascism when leftist politicians, in league with the Big Organic industry are trying to tell us what we can eat and what we can eat. Don’t worry, I will continue to eat GM food, and if you and the Greens are correct, it will kill off all of us GM supporters and you will get your wish and all of your opponents will eventually die off!

[tbpiper]

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I guess they just forgot about mentioning free range chickens.