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Cutting One-Fifth. Twice.
Time ^ | July 17, 2013 | Mark Thompson

Posted on 08/04/2013 9:42:45 AM PDT by JerseyanExile

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Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Tuesday that he has ordered a 20% cut in the ranks of the Pentagon’s top military officers and senior civilians.

Beginning in 2015, and completed by 2019.

Well, as we used to say: speed kills.

The estimated 4,000 jobs at stake represent not only a fifth of those working at the highest levels of the U.S. military, but also represent about one-fifth — of 1% — of the U.S. military’s total full-time workforce.

Hagel’s warning shot of budgetary pain to come marks the first time he has revealed action called for by the Strategic Choices and Management Review he launched in March. Many Pentagon officials acknowledge the layering on of civilian oversight since 9/11 has been excessive, is unsustainable, and needs to be trimmed back.

A study by the Pentagon’s own Defense Business Board – using highly-suspect Defense Department numbers – shows that the defense secretary’s own workforce climbed from 1,974 people on 9/11 to 2,708 a decade later.

That’s a 37% hike.

Cutting that 2011 body count of 2,708 by 20% would scale back the workforce to 2,168, 10% more than the 9/11 total.

That’s only a start, to be sure, but if – and that’s a big if – comes from the top ranks, it will set the tone for additional cuts needed given the financial pressure that the Pentagon is facing.

“That isn’t going to fix the problem,” Hagel said of the cuts at Jacksonville Naval Air Station in Florida. “But, yes, everybody’s got to do their part.”

Late Tuesday, Pentagon spokesman George Little elaborated in a statement:

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defensebudget; dod; hagel; nationaldefense; pentegon; secdefhagel
It's probably for the best. High level staffs have become incredibly bloated over the past several years.
1 posted on 08/04/2013 9:42:45 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

it’s like working in a bank- everyone is a vice-president


2 posted on 08/04/2013 9:44:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Why not just cut 36% once? Sounds worse....


3 posted on 08/04/2013 9:45:33 AM PDT by Principled
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To: JerseyanExile

Even better would be to cut down by 20% and another 20% of ALL government employees. That would be the best thing for the economy.


4 posted on 08/04/2013 9:54:57 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: JerseyanExile

How much is position elimination and how much is just getting new “more agreeable” blood in?


5 posted on 08/04/2013 9:57:28 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Which individuals are they going to get rid of and why?

Doesn’t eliminating positions means the people filling those positions will be out the door?

Will they use this for political ends, to get rid of religious people, conservative people, etc.?


6 posted on 08/04/2013 10:02:01 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Evryone who disagrees with Obama’s “Moslems are our friends” policies muust be gone.


7 posted on 08/04/2013 10:04:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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this has been going on for far too long - look what we get for it...not much. Folks that make it hard on the field to take action - rules of engagement crap. Plus more guys getting hurt as people test ideas rather than rolling out real protection.


8 posted on 08/04/2013 10:06:45 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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It's probably for the best. High level staffs have become incredibly bloated over the past several years.

I agree. Sounds like he's cutting in the right places, NOT in active duty levels. EVERY department in the Fed. Govt could stand to be cut, because it has grown out of control over the past 50 years.

9 posted on 08/04/2013 10:10:38 AM PDT by SuziQ
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When I visited DC last year, I came to realize how very much DC exists to serve DC itself.

The men wear 1000 dollar suits and the women have 400 dollar dresses, shoes, and handbags.


10 posted on 08/04/2013 10:12:13 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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>>The men wear 1000 dollar suits and the women have 400 dollar dresses, shoes, and handbags.<<

And those are just the *INTERNS*!!!!!

Did you also notice the oft used phrase [if you have the opportunity to roam the halls/cafeteria of the Capitol and rub elbows with these self-important elite: *Oh, I can influence that for you. or *I can get that for you....we just need 123 more signatures*

The business of the *people* is conducted in the most sleazy and corrupted fashion. Makes me fume and @ssplode.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 10:24:49 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: JerseyanExile

There is some similarity here with things that took place under Carter. And...guess what....the military loses some of their most experienced.

“Stupid” is not a strong enough word!


12 posted on 08/04/2013 10:27:32 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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I’m not interested in across the board cuts, especially in national defense.

I would start by cutting entire agencies, like Education, EPA, and others. I would eliminate a lot of subsidies.

Then I would look inside some of the remaining agencies for more cuts.

Easy to cut entire agencies by following the constitutional powers of the feds.


13 posted on 08/04/2013 10:31:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: JerseyanExile

Today, the USN has almost as many Admirals (285) as it has ships (275). So, while the number of ships and associated operational personnel have been reduced, the overhead has not. It’s been expanding.

A part of the problem of overhead is the multi-dimensional matrix. There are commanders of operational units and their task forces. For example, in the Navy, you would have the commander of an aircraft carrier, an O-6 Captain, and the commander of the carrier strike group, an O-8 Real Admiral. In the Army, you would have the commander of a brigade, an O-6 Colonel, and the commander of the division of which it is a part, a O-8 Major General.

While there are even larger formations in the Army (Corps and Army), you eventually have Forces Command and Fleet Command in these two services, which aren’t operational units but “coordinating units.”

A second line of command (also coordinating units) involves function commands. This is not unusual in large and complex organizations, where a lot of work is performed by functional specialists within organizations (HR, logistics, etc.).

Then there is a third line of command in the military, called Theater Commands, such as Central Command. These are multi-national commands, which means they are very top heavy in officers drawn from the members of the multi-national coalition and from the different services.

So, the increasingly complex and now multi-national aspect of military operations has resulted in a huge overhead relative to a downsized force structure. As a result, even with a budget in excess of $600 billion, the military has to make deep cuts into personnel and weapon systems. If this were to continue, we’d wind up with only overhead.

Yet, Tommy Franks was able, quickly, to defeat the Talliban in Afghanistan and Saddam in Iraq with bold and ruthless execution of relatively simple plans. In that sense, our military is awesome. But, this business of re-constructing countries that were never constructed in the first place is impossible and we will go bankrupt trying to do it.

To put my two cents in as to how to down-size the overhead, the services should start the process of combining all of their function commands.


14 posted on 08/04/2013 10:44:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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The men wear 1000 dollar suits and the women have 400 dollar dresses, shoes, and handbags.

And yet my hog-at-the-trough Demwit senator still looks like this.


15 posted on 08/04/2013 11:05:21 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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The “man of the people” look, LOL


16 posted on 08/04/2013 11:23:51 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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Far too many chiefs and not enough Indians in DOD. This can be said of all departments in government. I have no problem making cuts in defense that reduce the overhead, but all I see is cuts in Defense. I don’t see any cuts in other areas of the federal government. Entitlement programs are the biggest part of the budget. That is where cuts will have to be made to get the budget under control. However, no one in Washington has the guts to do what needs to be done.


17 posted on 08/04/2013 11:24:52 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: nascarnation
The “man of the people” look

Man looks like he ate a few of the people!

18 posted on 08/04/2013 12:59:46 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: SuziQ

We’re approaching the point of the British Admiralty around WW1 - when they had more admirals than ships.


19 posted on 08/04/2013 1:39:02 PM PDT by tbw2
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The US military has near 1,000 flag officers.


20 posted on 08/04/2013 2:08:18 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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