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To: Boogieman; HiTech RedNeck
I have no specific info on this case, I'm just considering a few patterns:

A) documented (printed in newspapers, congressional testimony, etc.) patterns of activities of CIA (e.g., the idea of "programmable" killers, all sorts of bizarre assassination methods, mind control experiments, etc.)
B) the plethora of documented connections between the CIA and, exclusively, the financial oligarchy, i.e., the American "eastern establishment"
C) the fact that the above is kept quiet in a coordinated fashion by government, the educational establishment and the news media; the only references made are to label anyone who speaks of them as a nutjob

For example, the predecessor of the CIA, the OSS, was run out of Rockefeller Center in NYC, and its key leadership had careers on Wall Street in either finance or law, or had direct family ties to the same. The real power was with a relatively tiny set of people or their loyal associates, and that fact continues to be true today.

The interested reader must research this type of history on their own instead of taking my word for it; of course they will have to sort through what is documentable (has a source, etc.) and what is not.

Interesting thing I found on the web, while searching: apparently Dartmouth has a "Nelson A. Rockefeller Center for Public Policy", obviously endowed by Nelson. IMHO, there is no rational reason why the Ivy League and the various large, old foundations should be so fixated on the CIA. Nelson's namesake "public policy center" is apparently still are involved with the CIA, helping to recruit at Dartmouth:

http://rockefellercenteratdartmouth.blogspot.com/2012/09/cia-info-session-rsvp-for-this-oct-3rd.html

At that link:

CIA Info Session - RSVP for this Oct. 3rd Event

Seeking career opportunities or an internship during an upcoming leave term? Make a world of difference with the CIA.



Rockefeller Center at Dartmouth

News from the Nelson A. Rockefeller Center for Public Policy at Dartmouth College"

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Info Session: Career and Internship Opportunities Wednesday, October 3rd
5:30-7:00 PM
Class of 1930 Room, Rockefeller Center
Co-sponsored by Dartmouth College Career Services
19 posted on 09/20/2013 6:22:14 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Not really. It was run by the British via a Canadian named William Stephenson.

At least get your conspiracies right!


22 posted on 09/20/2013 7:02:37 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: PieterCasparzen

CIA was documented as doing some thoroughly naughty things in the sixties and thereabouts, IIRC. It also blew up into a huge scandal and some very public wrist slapping. Bottom line: organizations and people aren’t static. If you want to look like you got your accusational ducks in a row, try to at least have them coexist in time.


23 posted on 09/20/2013 8:26:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Sure, they tried to figure out how to do “mind control”, back in the 50s and 60s. The results were pretty disappointing, if you read the declassified files. Also, there have been assassins, massacres, and “going amok” since long, long before any of those experiments, or the CIA existed, so “mind control” isn’t necessary to explain any of that.

Just because the government investigated something doesn’t mean they got it to work, and have some secret program still running. Or do you also think that, just because they investigated UFO reports, that aliens must be real and the government is covering that up?


26 posted on 09/21/2013 8:43:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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