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U.S. Advises Commercial Jets to Honor China’s Rules
The New York Times ^ | Friday, November 29, 2013 | Peter Baker and Jane Perlez

Posted on 11/29/2013 5:00:54 PM PST by kristinn

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To: kristinn

The country as a whole has lost its nerve and the president merely reflects that. It’s appalling to leave an ally isolated like that in the global politics.


21 posted on 11/29/2013 8:42:12 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: Leaning Right
...why Peking is now being called Beijing.

Not by me. Chicoms don't give me spelling lessons. The English language is called that for a reason.

Turin is not Torino, and Rome is not Roma, nor Moscow, Moskva. We speakee English, you malevolent dwarves.

22 posted on 11/29/2013 8:59:45 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: kristinn
[Art.] China said it had identified two American surveillance planes and 10 Japanese aircraft in its newly declared air defense zone ...

Never saw that flight of F-22's, did you? Come on back anytime, pal.
23 posted on 11/29/2013 9:02:09 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Oddly the Koreans are perfectly willing to go with the Western way of saying their names.

Lee instead of Yi
Park instead of Pak
Kim instead of Gim/Kim/or whatever

They even translate it that way themselves now.


24 posted on 11/29/2013 9:04:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Their privilege .... like the Japanese borrowings and spellings (in Japanese kana) of "fork" as "forku" and "steak" as "bifteku".
25 posted on 11/29/2013 9:08:56 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Another advantage of making Korean easier to learn (read anyway) than Japanese (by a good margin) and Chinese (by gigantic margin) was when they started writing/reading from left to right and across the page instead of down in columns. (granted you can still find the old styles around).


26 posted on 11/29/2013 9:18:41 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Sounds like a prudent move on their part ...... but still within their purview. If they want to spell "San Francisco" in Korean as "AXOLOTL", then that's their right and privilege.

But the Chicoms haven't the authority to give English-speakers lectures on using Pinyin orthography when writing in the Queen's English. Or even Fulton Fish Market English.

27 posted on 11/29/2013 9:39:15 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

My point is that Korea is more foreigner friendly than China, which explains is success since the 80’s


28 posted on 11/29/2013 9:57:19 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: kristinn

Looks like China is doing what Obama does, changes the Rules on a whim.


29 posted on 11/29/2013 10:06:27 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (A Communist is nothing more than an honest Democrat...)
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To: GeronL
Oh, okay. Yes, they've been a huge success in their own right.

China always wanted to tell other people how things were going to be. That policy failed in the Opium Wars.

30 posted on 11/29/2013 10:25:56 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

The Opium Wars... wow... that was just messed up all around


31 posted on 11/29/2013 10:30:38 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Yes, Great Britain's low point IMHO.

But opium-selling was the last and most potent resort of men determined to break the Chinese policy of selling only consumer nondurables to kwai loh, and only for hard cash (silver).

32 posted on 11/29/2013 10:41:22 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
No confrontation or shootdown will be “accidental”.

If they get into it in a three-way among the Chicoms, Japanese, and our guys, it'll be the biggest aerial brawl since the Battle of the Philippine Sea, a.k.a. the "Great Marianas Turkey Shoot".

It'll also be China's dress rehearsal for the Big One over the Formosa Strait and Taiwan.

33 posted on 11/29/2013 10:44:11 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
" just like the Soviet Union was when it shot down KAL-007 in the early 1980’s. "

You see ? even us here on FR are better at figuring out our foreign policy better than these rank armatures that occupy Washington now.
It's either or, we know darn well that is clearly on China's mind and what it would cost China if they were to shoot down a American or any other commercial jetliner, or ? they just don't give a crap.
Now we have rank armatures in Washington now saying ? " pretty please ? we don't want to make you wvery angry, please, please don't hurt us or make us look wvery weak and bad in the world's eyes " ....
Hey Washington ? Get your crap together, stop acting like a bunch of rank armatures and sissys.
Washington ? here's what you say to China.... China ? if you shoot down one of our jetliners with innocent passengers on board we will not pay back our debt to you and we will kick your A$$es to timbucktwo and back.
34 posted on 11/30/2013 12:23:07 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: BenLurkin

He even makes the French surrender monkies look strong.


35 posted on 11/30/2013 12:23:50 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Kickass Conservative
" Looks like China is doing what Obama does, changes the Rules on a whim. "
I agree except one thing... not whim, but wet noddle.
36 posted on 11/30/2013 12:27:12 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: kristinn

Let the Chinese start shooting. Barak Insane Obama has brought the weakness of the West, and now he is about to harvest his policies of so called “peace.”

Peace only comes if the military is strong, and a US Commander in Cheif demonstrates that he will use the might of US military power to foil the new leadership at Politburo HQ in Beijing.

The entire Pacific will soon be China’s playground.Say good bye to former allies South Korea, Japan, and Australia.This will be the result of the current Obamanation in the White Hut.


37 posted on 11/30/2013 1:12:04 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: PghBaldy

“Obama did hold out for a day or so”

Nah, he was busy appeasing Iran and playing golf.

He only got around to this crisis now and his first action is to surrender.


38 posted on 11/30/2013 1:12:04 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Candor7

“Let the Chinese start shooting.”

Exactly. They would never have the balls to shoot down a commercial airline full of civilians.

They would have looked like impotent fools with all that air traffic ignoring their “zone”. Obama should have done nothing but he had to screw this up.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 1:16:45 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"Obama should have done nothing but he had to screw this up."

Screwed this up or just another of his endless intentional actions to weaken the US and undermine its traditional allies?

40 posted on 11/30/2013 2:07:02 AM PST by Truth29
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