Posted on 12/12/2013 7:47:37 PM PST by neverdem
“...Are they scary looking?...”
Dunno... I sorta think they all look like the Grinch...
I have simple approach, I dont believe any of them(blindly).
Reagan:”Trust but verify”
SOL:” I need to verify”
How did I nail Paul Ryan so early? Simple logical sanity checks.
RE Ryan:
Yeah, you called him right early on, brother. You tend to be right more often than not.
“Dont trust, instead verify”
Kinda wish “our side” would expend as much energy going after the democommies as they do going after Tea Party folks.
I’m sick of the whole thing, but I guess that’s what both sides want - us to just get disgusted and go away.
Ain’t gonna happen.
In this case its back and forth, Bohner is responding to fire at him and Ryan with his ‘woof-woof’ back
Its wasnt like a pre-emptive attack.
Bohners #1 was to avoid another shutdown before the election. I mean nothing should be a surprise here.
Did you see that House vote? Its not like he passed it with most Dem votes. Only ~ 26 GOPs voted against it.
The night a deal was being started to end the shutdown and finalized the next day, I posted a vanity called
Boehner's Shutdown End-game play (you won't like it) 10/15/2013
It predicted exactly what one happen the next day or so, and one Koolaid Drinker posted comments on it telling me I shouldnt be warning others what would happen because its defeatist.
I was the only one here to pick up on this imminent change and I put it in breaking news
Senate Democrats threaten to change filibuster rules on a party-line vote (DONE: 52-48)
“...why isn’t the GOP preaching the gospel of capitalism to the immigrants who came here for the opportunity to work?”
Could it be the welfare they can collect just be being here?
Not so. Here's the Roll Call vote. There were 62 Noes. The GOP had 169 Ayes. I'd like to see the Ayes primaried, IMHO.
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 640
LibLieSlayer, Josh Kraushaar is some kind of conservative partial to Tea Party ideas, IMHO, despite current or former employers' political leanings. All of their writers at National Journal and Politico are not lefties.
AGHHH< I got the 2 and 6 in wrong order.
Good catch
Washington Bravehearts. :^)
I wouldn’t expect to pass 100% of what we want. But the fact that the deal raised spending and raised fee revenue was ridiculous. The Republicans traded their defense pork for welfare pork. The budget should have simply maintained the status quo of the sequester. If that was good enough for a deal last year without a shutdown, why wouldn’t it be this year? Not to mention I think it’s a 2-year-deal, so the Republicans already gave up the store for the year after their expected “sweep” election takes place for no reason?
Just a simple question in reply to all this bickering about Conservative opposition to the budget:
“Can you write a budget that commits future legislatures to budget cuts?”
If the answer is no, and Reagan would testify (or David Stockman would, if he had one ball in his sack), that the answer IS no.
Promised cuts aren’t cuts. Cuts are cuts. Saying they’re cuts doesn’t make them so. The Senate’s going to shut this down, it appears. (Both sides of the aisle).
I agree that many Republicans hated the sequester cuts so they cut a deal on that too.
And obviously Dems hated cuts to their stuff.
Ryan never like those sequester cuts even though he originally praised that sequester bill in 2011 then spent 2+ years backtracking on them.
Bohner gave his members the shutdown they demanded but they never had focused goals or demands to go with it to use it for anything.
It was one theme after another and ended up a confusing mess and in the end Bohner did what we all knew what he would do, pass the Senate bill.
On Obama’s side it was simple. Accept the original CR as is.
It pretty much killed the appetite for another. That primed the pumps for this deal.
I understand and I will take your word for it. All are not progressive... but all of them have at times embraced the evil of the left. I never will again. Maybe I am the odd man out but I know who and what I am and I will not compromise my bedrock tenants for anyone or any party. That is just how I roll. I used to but after being lied to and screwed over by the gop/e for decades... I had to take a stand. There can be no compromise with evil and anything that furthers the agenda of the left is evil.
Rather than unrealistically fantasizing about primarying 70% of the GOP conference we should target the worst and most vulnerable subpar members.
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