Posted on 02/27/2014 7:35:10 AM PST by rktman
Exceptions are always made for police. If you don’t, they’ll shoot your dog, mace you and knock out every one of your teeth. Then they’ll tell you how lucky you are they didn’t just kill you.
That way they can go home safe at the end of their watches. That’s the most important thing.
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I have seen a few of these sign. Not very many. But if that sign is in front of an establishment I turn and go somewhere else.
When our state approved cc, a number of businesses put up no gun signs. I don’t know the details but the only signs up now are on government buildings.
Apparently businesses have learned that legal carry does not adversely affect business. As many of these are national concerns, I hope they apply the lessons to stores in that state.
“Members of mom anti-gun violence group urge posting of ‘No Guns’ signs”
She absolutely has the right to post this sign...on HER FRONT LAWN. That will direct the bad guys where to go....
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Betcha I can put 18 rounds in a ten ring drawn on one of them signs from 50 feet in 15 seconds.
Posting a sign conflicting with current law has what legal implications or authority?
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I wonder how she equates being defenseless as being safe?
You can get the biggest goof off of all time, put a night watchman uniform on him, arm him and these idiots would feel perfectly safe with him around.
Guys approaching a store pulling their ski masks down over their faces with guns in their hands.
Then they see the “No Guns” sign and stop in their tracks and start walking away.
“Dammit, not another one. Ok guys we need to find a different store to rob. How about that store? Does it have a sign in the window?”
I invite her to Idaho, where both open and concealed carry are legal. And I believe the same is now true of my native land, Wisconsin, since liberal Gov. Doyle has been replaced by Scott Walker.
And your effort is thus wasted. When you see such a sign on any business establishment, you need to spend a few minutes to make a worthwhile effort that WILL change the situation.
Go inside, ask for the manager. Talk only to the top manager that is on duty. Politely explain how much money you normally spend or would have spent in their establishment but since they have decided that YOUR and their other customer’s safety is of no importance because they are disarming law abiding citizens who could/would help and stop a crazed shooter, you will no longer patronize their store.
Be polite and don’t rant, just point out the facts: They’re not only losing YOUR money but many others who will not say anything but will not patronize them.
Then tell them to talk to their legal counsel and insurance carrier to find out how much it will cost them if some batshit crazy assh0le disregards the sign and shoots any of their defenseless customers, who *could* have carried or used their weapons to stop the shooter or to defend themselves. Point out, nicely, that by EXPLICITLY removing any defense from their customers puts the liability for that defense on their business.
Ask them to evaluate the costs of 1) lost business from legitimate, law abiding citizen customers who carry and 2) the lawsuits after such a shooting where the customers were required to be defenseless because of their little sign.
And you can point out that making their establishment PC feelgood “gun free” only means that they have actually made it not only a target rich environment for any crazy ass shooter who won’t obey either the laws or their little sign, but also a magnet for such crazies. Virtually all of the major mass murder shootings have been in “gun free” zones. So they are *attracting* such liability by posting their little PC gun free zone sign.
Don’t argue with them. Just explain the above, and then leave. Does no good to argue or get steamed. But once the facts have been pointed out to them, it may take a while for them to sink in, but at least a rational person who has been propagandized by the anti-gun, PC crowd will have something to make a better decision on.
If the store is a huge chain, sit down and write the above in a letter and send it directly to the chain headquarters. No email or phone calls- they cost nothing and are of no value. A hard copy, written letter (especially sent certified/return receipt) shows your effort and conviction put into it.
Silently walking away does nothing to let the business know their mistake in kowtowing to the minority but very vocal anti-gun PC crowd and what the actual *costs* to the business are of putting up those little signs. And *costs* to the business are what talks and decisions are based on. They erroneously think, unless it’s pointed out to them, that there’s no cost to just post that little sign. When they see the costs - loss of YOUR $$$ - there is business based incentive to remove the PC signs.
It takes an effort, but look at the effort that the anti-gunners are putting into their cause. If we don’t put out a similar effort, they win by default. Walking away when you see the sign doesn’t provide the business with the feedback that the Mad Moms have given them.
And it might be quite entertaining if you keep the right mindset and try to smile and enjoy the experience/encounter. And enlightening for the business management who may have never heard the other side of the argument. Think of it as taking the manager/owner out to the range.
If you want to keep it short and sweet and not spend a lot of YOUR time, just write up a message such as above, print it out and walk in and hand it to the manager, then leave. (They can’t argue with you if you leave, but they have something tangible showing your effort, just as the Mad Moms have done. Which do you think will be more effective- a play on their emotions or definite evidence of loss of $$?)
Think about it.
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