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Commanders fired in nuke missile cheating scandal
Yahoo/AP ^ | 3-27-14 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 03/28/2014 3:07:23 AM PDT by kingattax

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Air Force took the extraordinary step Thursday of firing nine midlevel nuclear commanders and announcing it will discipline dozens of junior officers at a nuclear missile base, responding firmly to an exam-cheating scandal that spanned a far longer period than originally reported.

A 10th commander, the senior officer at the base, resigned and will retire from the Air Force.

Air Force officials called the discipline unprecedented in the history of America's intercontinental ballistic missile force. The Associated Press last year revealed a series of security and other problems in the ICBM force, including a failed safety and security inspection at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Mont., where the cheating occurred.

In an emotion-charged resignation letter titled "A Lesson to Remember," Col. Robert Stanley, who commanded the 341st Missile Wing at Malmstrom, lamented that the reputation of the ICBM mission was now "tarnished because of the extraordinarily selfish actions of officers entrusted with the most powerful weapon system ever devised by man."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; cheating; icbm; malmstrom; military; militarypurge; purge; usaf
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and the hits just keep on coming......
1 posted on 03/28/2014 3:07:23 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

In this case, I approve; It’s not political. They were liars and cheaters, and democrats have no business handling nuclear weapons.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 3:10:43 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Its not that simple.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 3:19:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kingattax

I’ve known several SAC people over the years. The one common thing that ALL of them had was that they were totally ‘anal’ when it came to procedures and following the book.

So this particular set of circumstances really raises some questions in my mind.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 3:23:30 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: driftdiver
I'm not sure what they were tested on, but if it's traditionally dumb questions like quotes from the Nuclear Weapons Manual, deadly force is that force which a person uses with the purpose of causing . . . the two man rule states that . . . security area signs shall state . . . they should just have memorized those rules and definitions. I haven't heard the details. What form did the cheating take?
5 posted on 03/28/2014 3:23:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

0 much prefer these types have their fingers on the nuke button:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/03/26/watch_a_latino_pastor_yell_jesus_outside_the_supreme_court_before_getting.html


6 posted on 03/28/2014 3:24:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

I’m sure O prefers that, but I prefer the anal types who follow the book exactly and freak out if the “four inch high block letters” for a sign are actually 4.2 inches high.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 3:27:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
In this case, I approve; It’s not political. They were liars and cheaters, and democrats have no business handling nuclear weapons.

Or at least, that is the official story. And I no longer believe official stories.

8 posted on 03/28/2014 3:32:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kingattax

Clearing the deck for thier commie replacements, stacking the deck so to speak


9 posted on 03/28/2014 3:57:15 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: PapaBear3625

“And I no longer believe official stories.”

No one should. Ever. It’s that simple.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 4:02:34 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: The Working Man

Years ago, my AF years....I had to do a plans update for the unit, and went through the plans book (this was 1992). I came to a SAC regulation...from 1969, which was still current, valid, and intact, with only forty lines of text. Over twenty years had passed, and that forty lines of text had not changed one single bit. At the time, I was in ACC...where regulations were entirely rewritten every two to three years and no one could ever remember what the current procedure or process involved.

I agree on the extreme dedication to SAC regulations....but they were awful simple and short. In this case, I’d be wondering just how complicated they’ve turned these nuke officer regulations into, and if they were asking for trouble with highly complicated material.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 4:05:18 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Dumbing down everywhere


12 posted on 03/28/2014 4:11:37 AM PDT by des (IMAGIRL)
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To: pepsionice

And, please don’t discount the chances of ineptitude, poor performance, and, bad leadership in cases like these. It happens within our military just as much as it does within any private organization. People would be surprised just how much illegal drug use their is in the military as commanders look the other way and don’t want to address the issue. Don’t want stuff going on the record, you see.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 4:16:23 AM PDT by FAA
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To: ronnie raygun
"Clearing the deck for their commie replacements, stacking the deck so to speak"

Obama has a very clear mandate on nukes - that there shouldn't be any, at all, anywhere, and if we just give up ours then the rest of the world should follow.

The problem is, can I see him organizing a way of getting rid of the old guard and replacing them with like minded individuals that could work from the inside out to further his cause? Even putting our nation at risk for his ideology? All I have to do is look at what he is willing to do to our economy because of his way of thinking and narcissistic attitude and suddenly anything becomes possible.

How sad is it that an optimist like I was just 7 years ago can actually have such unthinkable ideas that just jump to the forefront of my mind with every story like this I read.

14 posted on 03/28/2014 4:39:17 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Pollster1

From what I’ve read they shared copies of the test answers.

Its a failure of leadership in development of the testing and qualification system in addition to leadership of the people involved.

They’ve developed a system where anything less then a perfect score and perfect performance ratings is a career ending event.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 4:42:41 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FAA
And, please don’t discount the chances of ineptitude, poor performance

Yes, and I for one completely trust the obama administration to ferret out any bad leadership and replace those losers with well vetted and superior leadership. If you need further proof, just look at any of obama's other appointments. Not only can we now have the best of the best in charge, we can rest assured that they will be gay and love islam. I will certainly sleep better knowing that our nuclear arsenal will be so much better protected. What could possibly go wrong?

16 posted on 03/28/2014 4:45:35 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug

Having spent 10 yrs in the Air Force I’m certain there is ineptitude and poor performance on an individual level and that includes the leaders.

This is part of an overall effort to discredit the nuclear forces so when he pushes for complete disarmament there is popular support.


17 posted on 03/28/2014 4:49:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Colorado Doug

Alah Akbar, infidel.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 4:50:43 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: pepsionice

Have our ethics really fallen so far that complex regulations are cause for widespread cheating?


19 posted on 03/28/2014 4:53:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Colorado Doug

I said nothing of the current Admin.

If you think that the U.S. military is void of fault, it’s members pure as the wind driven snow, and, that there is no wrong doing happening within its ranks then you are severely underestimating that situation. Military members are a cross section of the population just as any other. There is good and bad, honest and dishonest, right and wrong sprinkled throughout. It’s not an indictment, just the truth.

To have people busted for cheating does not shock me and the current occupant of the White House has nothing to do with it.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 5:23:42 AM PDT by FAA
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