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Angry motorists want to put brakes on red light cameras
·FoxNews ^ | April 01, 2014 | Robert Gearty

Posted on 04/01/2014 9:39:52 PM PDT by george76

The new law makes South Dakota the sixteenth state to stamp out red light cameras and speed cameras by statute or state court ruling ... the cameras violate due process, don’t make intersections safer and generate revenue more for the red light vendor than the community.

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Brekford, based in Maryland, reported last week that it is losing money. .. Redflex Traffic Systems in Phoenix has even bigger headaches. The firm has been the subject of a federal bribery investigation in Chicago for the past year.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Arizona; US: Florida; US: Illinois; US: Maryland; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: brekford; cameras; redflex; redlight; redlightcameras; speedcameras

1 posted on 04/01/2014 9:39:52 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Once you have your chip implanted , all of these other distractions will be just that.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 9:43:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: george76

A couple years ago maybe, a ballot proposal was put up to the here in Anaheim, CA. and the public stuck a big thumb in the red light camera businesses eye by voting to never allow them in the city. I’ve run into speed cameras in other states, don’t much like them either, I don’t think the cops should get to pop you if they don’t catch you!


3 posted on 04/01/2014 9:48:24 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

In late 90’s, Red Light Cameras were Mark Begich’s claim to fame. Anytime I call his office to bark, I always remind them that they were his babies and it didn’t turn out well. Begich got booted from office in Anchorage and Alaska passed legislation forbidding Red Light Cams in Alaska. Begich’s people always tell me that red light cams were his only mistake, ha ha.


4 posted on 04/01/2014 9:54:08 PM PDT by Eska
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To: george76
a federal bribery investigation in Chicago

Chicago? Bribery?

But I repeat myself.

5 posted on 04/01/2014 10:16:18 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: george76
On this matter, the Brits are ahead of us.
6 posted on 04/01/2014 11:13:58 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: george76

Red light cams, speeding cams, etc...they’re all extortion schemes run by a mafia style government using YOUR tax dollars to buy even more monitoring devices to extort even more money from you. They use PR firms to get the dummies to think that they government installed them to protect you. Its all about the money. Anything else they tell you is complete BS.


7 posted on 04/02/2014 12:15:34 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Friend challenged his ticket in court and only had to pay half the regular fine for “running” a red light. Actually, we went to that intersection and filmed the sequence of lights for two consecutive blocks and proved that the yellow light was so fast it was almost nonexistent. No matter, just the act of challenging set the fine 50 percent lower. No judge wanted to waste time tackling the facts.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 12:43:21 AM PDT by Veto!
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To: Slings and Arrows

The Brits made it so easy and convenient by designing the beasts so you could hang a burning tire on them.

We have the advantage of superior firepower, however.

Besides, if you just obey the law, you have nothing to worry about. /sarc


9 posted on 04/02/2014 12:53:36 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

> The Brits made it so easy and convenient by
designing the beasts so you could hang a burning
tire on them.

Gotta love British politeness.

> Besides, if you just obey the law, you have nothing
to worry about. /sarc

That one cracks me up every time.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 1:18:22 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: george76

“The new law makes South Dakota the sixteenth state to stamp out red light cameras and speed cameras by statute or state court ruling ... the cameras violate due process, don’t make intersections safer and generate revenue more for the red light vendor than the community.”

Hope we can raise that number to 50......


11 posted on 04/02/2014 2:21:42 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: george76

One of the better comments at the end of the article (this is just an excerpt, it’s a long comment):

uralicMAN 3 hours ago

yea I’m all for camera’s everywhere,....I want a camera on the desk of every local, state, and federal employee...


12 posted on 04/02/2014 2:30:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: george76

We ought to be ripping them off every street corner in the country.


13 posted on 04/02/2014 3:40:01 AM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: george76

Speeding cameras are proof that speeding is safe.

In the DPRM they have issued tens of millions of tickets. But there were not tens of millions of accidents.

Folks get photographed, go on their merry way, and get a ticket in the mail a couple of weeks later.

So where exactly is the danger here?

Yes, speed can contribute to an accident and high speed can cause an accident, but the clear majority of tickets issued do not fall into either of those two categories.

Total scam.

Red light cameras same deal. The majority, if not all, of those tickets are folks continuing through at the end of the light cycle.

Since cars in the other directions are already stopped, this is more of an annoyance than a safety problem.


14 posted on 04/02/2014 3:46:05 AM PDT by fruser1
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They also found a LOT of Astroturfing* with people that post comments in support of these comments. This system is corrupt as hell...and has to be, as they make their money by extracting it, mostly, from locals that can otherwise fight them and shut them down - the system requires payoffs to operate.

*people from the companies posing as local people that support the cameras)


15 posted on 04/02/2014 4:09:19 AM PDT by BobL
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To: jsanders2001

One of Reagan’s axioms, if it moves tax it...


16 posted on 04/02/2014 5:52:25 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: george76

They are fighting back here in Missouri. They even give camera tickets if they deem you did not make a full stop before making a right turn on red. The great thing right now is even if you get one of the tickets in the city of St. Louis it doesn’t go on your driving record and they can’t force you to pay it. I have 2 for the right turn on red and haven’t paid them in 3 years and I don’t plan on it.

It is extortion plain and simple.


17 posted on 04/02/2014 5:54:20 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (If stupid ever reaches $150 a barrel then I want the drilling rights to Maxine Water's head.)
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To: fruser1

Speed limits were instituted en masse in this country for two reasons: The environment (See Carter’s “energy crisis”) and little old ladies who are scared of speed. The ponzi scheme came later, but now it’s too far entrenched.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 6:02:14 AM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: BobL

They also found a LOT of Astroturfing* with people that post comments in support of these comments. This system is corrupt as hell...and has to be, as they make their money by extracting it, mostly, from locals that can otherwise fight them and shut them down - the system requires payoffs to operate.

*people from the companies posing as local people that support the cameras)

Several years ago an infamous red light security manufacturer hired a PR firm in DC that looked for any news articles where a vehicle that had children in it was struck by a red light runner and would overdramatize the hell out of it then have fake forum posters post everywhere about it. They also started up an organization that looked (on paper) like a red light safety advocacy group sett up by community activists but they were really the behind it. I’m not naming names but i find this type mental manipulation for profit to be in the lowest scumbucket category.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 7:06:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: george76

The idiot mayor in my town introduced cameras in the school zones to get the foot in the door (so to speak). Since no one objected (who would?!) he took that as an affirmative and blanketed them across town.

The net effect was an increase in accidents as more and more drivers over-reacted by slamming on either the gas or the brakes. For a short while they got revenue (the company that owns the cameras keeps the bulk of any extortion booty), but that soon tapered off.

Now the camera company wants to renegotiate because they aren’t raking in enough dough from their victims. I’ve been working with others to get them removed. the mayor quit but made sure his hand-picked boy carries on in his stead.

What a racket!


20 posted on 04/02/2014 11:03:38 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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