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Posted on 05/09/2014 12:48:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
That wasn’t name calling. That was showing a lack of respect for the idea of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Sometimes the “wrong” side enacts good ideas, maybe they stole them, maybe they got them on their own. But a good thing is a good thing regardless of the source.
I don’t see roads as needing to be a profit center. Roads get built because we need roads, and since they’re listed in the constitution they are clearly a valid function of government.
There might be initiative but who’s really going to sink the trillions of dollars necessary into it? Especially starting in the 50s when Ike started the initiative. And there’s the question of if it would really be a good idea for private interests. An all toll highway system wouldn’t have increased our freedom nearly as much as the current “prepaid through taxes” system.
The founders understood there are actually good and right and proper things to be done by government.
Since you are excusing not only big government but also the actions of the most infamous dictatorship of the last century, then it’s your credibility in question. Invoking the Founding Fathers with respect to big government is an outrage, with all due respect—they certainly understood that growing government by engaging in public works projects that could have been achieved by the private sector is neither good nor right.
Everything we have could have been achieved without any government invention—everything. That’s not “throwing out the baby with the bath water”, because government intervention is the unnecessary factor here and not the “baby”.
I’m not excusing big government, nor actions by a dictatorship. So it’s your reading comprehension we need to call in to question.
That wasn’t Brooks on screen in the movie, just his voice dubbed over the actor. His version of the line is also dubbed into each performance of the musical, as well as the 2005 movie version.
Another famous heard but not seen in the film is Buddy Ebsen in the “Wizard of Oz.” Many are familiar with the aluminum paint allergy story keeping Ebsen out of the role of the Tin Woodsman in the movie. Most don’t know that the song “We’re Off to See the Wizard” was one of the first things done for the film. By the time production was in full swing and Ebsen was since replaced they had the song already in the can and decided it’s would cost too much to redo it. So Buddy Ebsen’s voice only is heard in the final print in just that song.
You are by calling any action by them you perceive to be of some benefit as “good”, and by saying so implying that the “good” thereof referred to could not have come by any other means. Since those actions were means by which they attained more power for themselves, then the actions and their results are themselves evil. One has to be of greater intestinal fortitude than to accept anything that causes ease (note the difference from “good”) from any source.
Nope, those aren’t my requirements. It has to ACTUALLY accomplish something, and it has to accomplish something that wasn’t being done by the private sector and seems rather unlikely to be done by the private sector (as much as you might wish it the private sector was NEVER going to make the highway system, much the the train system from the century before), and it needs to be a legitimate function of government as spelled out in the Constitution. That’s actually a limited scope. But one must be smart enough to understand that it is not an empty set, that indeed government CAN accomplish things the private sector can’t.
False characterizations. When the government gets in the way of the private sector accomplishing something, that’s a great evil. Speculating on the likelihood of the private sector taking the initiative when the government got in the way from the very start is just that—speculation.
The private sector did indeed build the rail system, especially from its beginnings, which is where their capital came from to begin with. It is when the government started regulating and taxing them punitively that they started to lose money. Same applies with the road system. This goes back a lot further than you imagine. It’s held the country back in many ways, and to a great degree it is the cause of the disaster we now face.
The entire space program of the US and USSR from the end of the war to 1951 was done mostly with captured German V-2 rockets. England even fired a couple.
Sorry no. Again show me a private sector that had any intention of building the interstate highway system. There isn’t one. And that proves you’re full of crap.
The private sector built the rail system with government money and chasing more government money. There were big prizes for who finished first. Without the government money they wouldn’t have done it that fast or that comprehensively.
We’re in a circle. You’re so desperate to insist anyone that disagrees with you is a liberal you’re saying ridiculous things and saying them over and over. And I’ve refuted them all at least twice. We’re done. Bye.
“Somebody had to round up all the Jews, Romani, and Slavs in the vast Nazi occupied territories for the SS to murder, and it was the Wehrmacht that did it.”
The war would have ended years earlier if Germany used combat troops in what was basically a police role. I have no horse in this race (not belonging to any of the groups involved), but the photo evidence doesn’t support your contention.
It's what they're used to. It's tied up with the great periods of their history.
And over time, artists, intellectuals, and politicians create a cult or mystique of the great leader and the grateful, dependent, submissive Volk.
I'm not so sure that today's Germany (or even today's Austria) is really looking for a dictator, though.
When one exhibits behavior typical of liberals, one has to point that out. That includes excusing big government of any form (including making false and empty attributions to the Founding Fathers to justify same), making baseless allegations against the private sector (especially in the case of the government interfering and not allowing the private sector to act let alone participate), and resorting to invective when someone does not agree with their viewpoints. Especially in the case of the Volkswagen, claiming that it is a “good” that the Nazis provided is shameful, when it was being developed privately by Ferdinand Porsche and effectively stolen from him.
The private sector did not build the railway network with government money; that is a lie. One of the biggest examples of private investment is Pennsylvania Station in New York City and the tunnels leading to them; not built with a single cent of government money, but actually was a result of the Pennsylvania Railroad refusing to go along with government dictates (the state governments actually wanted a “collective” effort with the PRR sharing a bridge across the Hudson with its competing railroads, e.g. the Lackawanna, Erie, B&O et cetera), so they built their own route and station out of pocket.
“Well, Hitler was Austrian, so it appears in the end, Austria won. Hitler despised everything about Prussia.”
Not at all; in WWI he fought hard to get into a German army unit (instead of the Austian army). He detested the Austrian monarchy for trying to create a state with so many other races, and looked to German military officers after WWI to save Germany from the communists.
They have no problem with the EU’s government in Brussels being dictatorial.
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Being an idealist excuses nothing.
Hitler was an “idealist”. He was also a socialist, an animal rights advocate, a vegetarian, a teatotaller, an antichristian who espoused a preverse, self-serving form of Christianity, a non-smoker, a drug abuser, a hypochondriac, an avid of follower of unconventional medicine, childishly sentimental, a dilettante and a sexual deviant. He was enthralled by a superficial and superstitious naturalism. He was a technical illiterate fascinated by the fruits of technology he never really understood and upon which he made sweeping generalizations and pronouncements, while loathing and envying its creators. If he were alive today and living in Wisconsin, he’d be on the liberal arts faculty of a third rate community college and a Democratic Party activist.
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