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No More Stealing by Government? A Long-Overdue Attack on Asset Forfeiture
Townhall.com ^ | May 16, 2014 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

Since I’m a public finance economist, I realize I’m supposed to focus on big-picture issues such as tax reform and entitlement reform. And I do beat those issues to death, so I obviously care about controlling the size and power of government.

But I like to think I’m also a decent human being. And this is why I get even more agitated when politicians and bureaucrats engage in thuggish behavior against comparatively powerless citizens.

Some of the worst examples of government thuggery are the result of “asset forfeiture,” which happens when governments confiscate the property of people who haven’t been convicted of any crime. Heck, sometimes they’re not even charged with any crime.

*Such as when the government wanted to steal someone’s truck because a different person was arrested for drunk driving.

*Such as when the government tried to steal the bond money a family has collected to bail out a relative.

*Such as when the government seized nearly $400,000 of a business owner’s money because it was in the possession of an armored car company suspected of wrongdoing.

*Such as when the government sought to confiscate an office building from the owner because a tenant was legally selling medical marijuana.

*Such as when the government killed a man as part of an anti-gambling investigation undertaken in hopes of using asset forfeiture to steal other people’s cash.

But we do have a bit of good news. All these horror stories seem to be causing a backlash.

Fox News has a very revealing article on how this system is under assault. The story begins by explaining how asset forfeiture is an open invitation for abuse and grossly inconsistent with the Constitution.

Civil forfeiture is when police and prosecutors seize property, cars or cash from someone they suspect of wrongdoing. …authorities don’t have to prove guilt, file charges or obtain a conviction before seizing private property. Critics say it is a process ripe for abuse, and one which leaves citizens little means of fighting back. “You breed a culture of ‘take first, ask questions later,’” Larry Salzman, an attorney with the Institute for Justice, told FoxNews.com. “It’s thuggish behavior.” …civil forfeitures represent a dangerous area of the U.S. justice system where, by law, a person is supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around.

The report from Fox cites a couple of reasons why asset forfeiture is misguided. One major problem is that it gives cops a budgetary incentive to steal.

In Tennessee, local law enforcement agencies get to keep 100 percent of all property seized through civil forfeiture – an incentive some say can tempt police to go after property for the wrong reasons.

Fortunately, people are now fighting this horrible procedure. The story explains that a former law enforcement official who is now a state lawmaker, Barrett Rich, is trying to reform Tennessee’s awful bill.

And Minnesota actually has eliminated this odious tactic. Here are some excerpts from a Forbes column.

In a big win for property rights and due process, Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed a bill yesterday to curb an abusive—and little known—police practice called civil forfeiture. Unlike criminal forfeiture, under civil forfeiture someone does not have to be convicted of a crime, or even charged with one, to permanently lose his or her cash, car or home. …Now the government can only take property if it obtains a criminal conviction or its equivalent, like if a property owner pleads guilty to a crime or becomes an informant. The bill also shifts the burden of proof onto the government, where it rightfully belongs.

Wyoming’s state legislature also is considering reform, so there are positive developments in many different states.

For more information, click here for a very good introductory video about civil asset forfeiture.

If you like videos, click here for a horrifying videoabout the government stealing $17,000 from an innocent man.

And here’s another video, this one about thegovernment stealing money from a family grocery store.

Last but not least, if you want to get more upset, here are some additional examples of non-forfeiture related government thuggery.

Gee, it’s almost enough to make a person a libertarian!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: assetforfeiture; irsoutofcontrol; leooutofcontrol; northcarolina

1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:46:44 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Kaslin

While I strenuously oppose asset forfeiture practices, I’m tempted to try them out on employers of illegal aliens who didn’t due their diligence. Including private homeowners and those who hire the businesses who hire illegals (sorry, your suit has been seized from the tailor because they employed illegals).

Done right, they’d all go home.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:54:19 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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To: Kaslin

At best, government is a necessary evil, best kept limited and controlled, but people trade liberty for what they think government can offer, and the beast grows out of control.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:59:43 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin
The August 12, 2013 New Yorker had a good article on asset forfeiture:

Taken: Under civil forfeiture, Americans who haven’t been charged with wrongdoing can be stripped of their cash, cars, and even homes. Is that all we’re losing?

The laws vary widely by state. North Carolina's good:

"Only one state, North Carolina, bans the practice [civil forfeiture], requiring a criminal conviction before a person’s property can be seized."

5 posted on 05/16/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Kaslin

I am outraged every time I read one of these stories. I do not understand how we the people allow it to continue.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 10:04:49 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

You can thank supporters of the war on drugs for this criminal behaviour on the part of government thugs. They cheered it all on.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 10:08:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: Freeping Since 2001

I think your idea is way off. The asset forfieiture burden should be on the illegal alien. That would discourage them from crossing the border if they knew they could lose everything they earned here.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 10:09:23 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten; Freeping Since 2001

I’mw with FS2K. Illegal aliens have nothing to lose and it’s hard to track down millions of people who just don’t care. Employers on the other hand have much to lose and are easy find, identify, and punish.


9 posted on 05/16/2014 10:23:39 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: VanShuyten

I think your idea is way off. The asset forfieiture burden should be on the illegal alien. That would discourage them from crossing the border if they knew they could lose everything they earned here.


Sorry, but they have no assets.

They take the house of the grandma whose broke stoner grandson kept his stash there, not the assets of the grandson.

Illegals come here because even though they’re illegal, they still expect to be better off than at home. They are attracted by the dollars from the employers. The employers need to feel the threat of pain, and decide to hire legal labor, and to turn away illegals.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 10:32:13 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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To: Kaslin

“Now the government can only take property if it obtains a criminal conviction or its equivalent, like if a property owner pleads guilty to a crime or becomes an informant”

Wait, “or becomes an informant” leads to confiscation? What’s the quid pro quo there? They took his stuff, and they could have put him in jail too, but they won’t put him in jail?


11 posted on 05/16/2014 10:50:11 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: pallis
At best, government is a necessary evil, best kept limited and controlled, but people trade liberty for what they think government can offer, and the beast grows out of control.

Correct, and remember, a government big enough to provide what you want is big enough to take what you have.

12 posted on 05/16/2014 10:58:42 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin
Since I’m a public finance economist, I realize I’m supposed to focus on big-picture issues such as tax reform and entitlement reform. And I do beat those issues to death, so I obviously care about controlling the size and power of government.

But I like to think I’m also a decent human being. And this is why I get even more agitated when politicians and bureaucrats engage in thuggish behavior against comparatively powerless citizens.

He phrases this like he thinks it's a conflict or potential conflict. I don't see it. Reining in gooberment scope and expecting them to act like decent people is not conflicting in the least, as far as I can see.

13 posted on 05/16/2014 5:15:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Bump


14 posted on 05/16/2014 6:29:37 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Bonorum ereptionem delenda est!


15 posted on 05/16/2014 6:51:01 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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