[hoagy62]

Real men, honest men, godly men admit failure and learn. They modify their systems when they produce negative results. They don't let childish notions like fear of change hold them back

There's your payoff line.

Many of these are NOT 'real' men, and they DAMNED sure are not godly men. They are over-grown adolescents who never had a good example of a MAN in the house to know HOW to act like a man. They'll tell God or anyone who represents Him to take a hike.

I would venture to guess that 90% or more of men in prison are lost causes and un-redeemable. The only options are to keep them locked up for life or destroy them.

What's cheaper? (And yes...modern life has made me very cynical.)

[SouthParkRepublican]

"90% of men in prison are lost causes and un-redeemable"

To whom? Society or God? And whom are you and I to be sitting in judgment? I have known men who have been there and pulled themselves back from the abyss as well as men whom have spent their lives as respected members of the community, only to fall into that abyss.