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Obama's push to hire veterans into federal jobs fuels resentment
Stars And Stripes, from Washington Post ^ | 9-15-14 | Lisa Rein

Posted on 09/16/2014 3:16:24 PM PDT by Route797

President Barack Obama’s push to hire military veterans for jobs across the government is fueling resentment in federal offices, as longtime civil servants and former troops on the other side of the cubicle increasingly question each other’s competence and qualifications.

With veterans moving to the head of the hiring queue in the biggest numbers in a generation, there’s growing bitterness on both sides, according to dozens of interviews with federal employees.

Those who did not serve in the military bristle at times at the preferential hiring of veterans and accuse them of a blind deference to authority. The veterans chafe at what they say is a condescending view of their skills and experience and accuse many non-veterans of lacking a work ethic and sense of mission.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 09/16/2014 3:16:24 PM PDT by Route797
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To: Route797

There is no doubt in my mind that the more veterans there are in a bureaucracy — the more incompetent the career bureaucrats will be revealed to be.


2 posted on 09/16/2014 3:20:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Route797

gotta side with the veterans


3 posted on 09/16/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Route797
Misinformation. Obama is doing no such thing.

No, I have no proof, just knowledge of the creep's pattern of behavior over the past 6 years. Americans are p*ssed at his neglect of the VA system even while US soldiers have been suffering disproportionate casualties in Afghanistan due to his ROE.

4 posted on 09/16/2014 3:21:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Route797
Those who did not serve in the military bristle at times at the preferential hiring of veterans and accuse them of a blind deference to authority.

Says a free thinking lib who never questions government controlling their entire life.
5 posted on 09/16/2014 3:24:37 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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To: Route797

As a vet who was also a DAC (Department of the Army Civilian) I can tell you that the majority of civilian employees are competent but perhaps not overly ambitious. However, there are about 10% who seem to take joy in making others miserable. Either by trying to be a regulation bully or by finding every possible way to do the least amount of work and remain employed.

It got to the point I could not stand it and left for the civilian workforce. I have never looked back.


6 posted on 09/16/2014 3:26:22 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Route797

Caucasian veterans need not apply


7 posted on 09/16/2014 3:27:01 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: skeeter

As a Vietnam vet who got the brushoff from civil service h.r. departments all through the 1970’s, I now realize that the smug punks doing the interviews while telling me that my combat arms skills were of no use to them, were not only nonveterans but probably draft dodgers as well.


8 posted on 09/16/2014 3:30:15 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Route797

Veterans have always (for many decades) had hiring preference. That is written into the personnel regs. I don’t think Obama has anything to do with it. Perhaps what has changed is that there are a larger number of vets entering the workforce, post retirement/separation.


9 posted on 09/16/2014 3:30:45 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Route797
Translation

Vets - Hardworking, qualified, efficient, competent, loyal, honest, committed people who got their jobs on merit

“civil servants” - lazy, unqualified, inefficient, incompetent , corrupt political hacks who got their jobs via patronage or via make work jobfare

10 posted on 09/16/2014 3:31:15 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Route797

If there were a greater demand for workers in the private sector, those lucrative government jobs wouldn’t be in as great of a demand by employable people.


11 posted on 09/16/2014 3:31:22 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Route797
My company formed a new manufacturing group which operates separate from the existing products group. They got federal money to build the facility and a tax break for ten years. They hired only veterans recently out of the service. They got their salaries subsidized, training grant monies, and reimbursed for relocation expenses to bring them to us.

Now we have a bunch of people who call our vendors morning, noon, and night to fix their problems. They constantly in-fight. They withold and do not share important information in favor of keeping it to themselves so they can step in and play the hero syndrome. It's a mess.

The existing manufacturing lines and processes operate just fine and without problems.

Just a real case example I've experienced. Some of the veterans are great and I would retain them if it was my call. The rest you could put on the first thing making smoke which leaves town. They are no different than regular pools of employees.

12 posted on 09/16/2014 3:34:31 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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The idea is to get the best qualified people whether they’re a veteran or not. I mean, if you want a competent civil service.


13 posted on 09/16/2014 3:34:32 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: skeeter

Preferences for vets are written into the law. Obama had nothing to do with that. But what he has done is set numerical targets for hiring veterans and to also explicitly make part of promotion review the number of veterans hired.


14 posted on 09/16/2014 3:37:26 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Route797

Funny stuff. I love it. The career bureaucrats are feeling the heat of competition and they do not like it one little bit.

Don’t these dolts realize this is affirmative action ... in action?


15 posted on 09/16/2014 3:41:13 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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The career bureaucrats don not want a competent civil service.

I think that is their major beef against veterans — the vets actually come in to the office and work.


16 posted on 09/16/2014 3:41:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: blackdog
There was an article in WSJ awhile back....about a software company that only hired Vets....

And descriptions of their competitive attitude....

like racing up stairs to beat the elevator.

great work attitude and attention to detail....and not "passing the buck."

17 posted on 09/16/2014 3:41:30 PM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: GrootheWanderer

When did he take action on this?


18 posted on 09/16/2014 3:50:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Route797

No military experience here (which some sick FReepers believe mean that I shouldn’t be permitted to talk about our military), but I have worked with a lot of military veterans, and they are, almost always, AWESOME! Serious as hell, organized as hell, and just great people. I even had the unfortunate experience of having one as a friend in college - there was NO WAY I could keep up with him...he got all the good job offers. He was a SERIOUS student.


19 posted on 09/16/2014 4:01:13 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: Route797

I’m sure that Pajama Boy would do a great job, too.(/sarc)


20 posted on 09/16/2014 4:14:14 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
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