Skip to comments.State Won’t Say How Many U.S. Ebola Victims Acceptable Price for No-Quarantine Travel Policy
Posted on 10/12/2014 1:03:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(CNSNews.com) - State Department Spokeswoman Jen Psaki would not directly respond Thursday to a question from CNSNews.com asking her how many American Ebola victims would be an acceptable price for the American people to pay for the administrations policy of allowing people to travel to the United States from three Ebola-stricken countries in West Africawithout even putting them through a quarantine period.
On Wednesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department of Homeland Security announced a new policy for dealing with travelers entering this country from Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, which are currently experiencing an Ebola epidemic.
Under this policy, travelers from these countries will be checked on arrival at five U.S. international airports to see if they have a fever or are exhibiting symptoms of Ebola. They will also be questioned to see if they admit having had contact with an Ebola victim.
If a traveler from one of the Ebola-effected nations shows no symptoms of the disease and does not admit to having had contact with an Ebola victim, he or she will be admitted to the United States and allowed to move around the country freely.
It will then take 21 days for the U.S. government to know for certain whether the asymptomatic person they admitted to the country is infected with Ebola or not.
150 people from the Ebola-stricken nations arrive in the United States each day, according to the CDC.
The late Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian national who arrived in the United States last month and then became the first person to be diagnosed inside the United States with Ebola, did not have symptoms of the disease when he left Liberia or when he arrived in the United States, the CDC says. He only began to show symptoms "four or five days" after he arrived, the CDC said, and only began getting treatment eight days after he arrived.
The CDC subsequently began monitoring 48 people in the United States for signs of Ebola. These included ten people that the CDC said had contact with Duncan, and 38 it could not rule out had had contact with Duncan.
When a homeless man who, according to the New York Times, had ridden in the same ambulance in which Duncan had earlier been conveyed to the hospitalbut before it was cleanedwent missing last Sunday, Texas authorities tracked him down. Then, according to the Associated Press, Texas authorities ordered this homeless American into quarantine.
The illness has an average 8-10 day incubation period (although it ranges from 2 to 21 days), says the CDC. CDC recommends monitoring exposed people for symptoms a complete 21 days. People are not contagious after exposure unless they develop symptoms.
Because the virus has this 21-day incubation period, the new policy implemented by the CDC and DHS will not allow the U.S. government to know for certain whether the people it is allowing to enter the United States from the Ebola-stricken countries of Africa are carrying the virus. Like Duncan, they may be carrying it and not yet showing symptoms.
At a briefing on Wednesday, Dr. Frieden presented what amounted to a cost-benefit analysis to explain why the CDC had decided to allow people who were not showing symptomsbut could be carrying Ebolato enter the United States from the West African countries suffering the Ebola epidemic.
He pointed to both financial and health costs Americans could incur if the U.S. did not allow asymptomatic people travelling from Ebola-stricken countries to enter the United States. He made no mention of--and offered not cost-benefit type analysis of--allowing people from Ebola-stricken countries to enter the United States, but only after they had undergone a quarantine period covering the known incubation period of the virus.
We recognize that whatever we do, until the outbreak is over in West Africa, we can't get the risk to zero in this country, Dr. Frieden said.
We have to ensure that whatever we do doesn't unintentionally increase the risk that we will be at risk, he said. Just to remind us of what happened a decade ago in the SARS outbreak. The SARS outbreak cost the world more than $40 billion, but it wasn't to control the outbreak. Those were costs from unnecessary and ineffective travel restrictions and trade changes that could have been avoided. What we want to do is ensure that we don't undermine our ability to stop the outbreak at its source and unintentionally increase our risk here.
When a reporter asked Dr. Frieden to elaborate on the $40-billion cost incurred during the SARs outbreak, Frieden said the following: In terms of the costs of SARS, many of those costs were related to people canceling travel, to trade restrictions, or to trade that didn't occur. And I have to say, I've spoken with business leaders who have emphasized to me that there's so many misconceptions about Ebola that they're already seeing things like a reduction in investment in parts of Africa that are not in any way, shape, or form involved in the Ebola outbreak. So, we're concerned that if we don't ensure that we focus on what works and do that well, we may have that same kind of unnecessary and counterproductive cost here.
On Wednesday, Secretary of State Kerry said of U.S. efforts to contain the Ebola outbreak: "We need airlines to continue to operate in West Africa and we need borders to remain open."
In light of Kerry's remarks and Dr. Friedens cost-benefit analysis supporting the governments policy of allowing people from Ebola-stricken regions to enter the United States without even going through a quarantine period, CNSNews.com asked State Department Spokeswoman this question on Thursday:
When measured in terms of American lives that might be affected by this--American lives lost or permanently altered by Ebola--is there a point at which that cost-benefit analysis tips and it would be seen as a mistake to have let people to travel here without a quarantine period? Is it one American contracting Ebola? Is it five? Is it ten? At what point would the policy have to be reexamined and seen as imprudent?
Psakis response did not say how many American Ebola victims would be an acceptable number.
She said: Well, one, I think what youre referring to in part is some of the new announcements that were made by the White House or are in the process of being made about measures that are being put into place to screen over 94 percent of passengers arriving from Ebola-affected Western African countries. We continue to take steps and evaluate what steps that can be taken to, of course, not only protect American citizens but continue to treat--do everything we can to address this outbreak.
And I would also note, Psaki continued, that Dr. Frieden has also made comments that by isolating these countries, it would make it harder to help them. It will spread more there, and wed be likely to be exposed more here. So there are reasons for finding ways to address this and address it in ways that are dont intervene as with passengers, while still allowing these countries to travel.
CNSNews.com then asked this followup: But if the policy is to allow people who have been in Ebola-stricken regions to enter the United States without a quarantine period, is there an acceptable number of Americans that could be exposed to the Ebola virus for that reason? Is there an acceptable number?
Psaki said: I think the CDC has addressed this, as have I. Im going to move on because I just have another moment.
In response to a question posed by a reporter from the Associated Press, Psaki said that the State Department has not changed its procedures for issuing visas to people travelling to the United States from Ebola-stricken country.
Are the embassies in the three countries that are most affected still processing all visa applications? a reporter asked.
Yes, they are, she said.
So confidence-inspiring is she!
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
They’d probably be satisfied with 349 million.
Yes, they are, she said.
And that, my friends is a large portion of the problem. Would any of you be issuing visas to nationals of these countries right now???? President Obola is.
Bonus question. Is knowingly importing a deadly disease to the US an impeachable offense???
$40 billion is a drop in the bucket world-economy wise, and not a good rationalization for allowing unfettered travel.
If a person wants to travel to or from West African nations, then they need to be prepared to fund their own isolation for 21 days upon return. Don’t have the money in the bank for isolation costs then don’t travel.
Need to conduct business? skype or gotomeeting works well enough.
Shut it down and isolate the epidemic.
I see that same photo being posted at least once every single day. I know it’s from a Mel Brooks comedy, but it’s still sort of morbid. But that’s just me.
did not have symptoms of the disease when he left Liberia or when he arrived in the United States, the CDC says
this is so irresponsible of them to say such a thing..
1. the CDC were not there noir examined or tested him in his country before he got on the plane..
2. the CDC were not there not examined or tested him the day he arrived in the US..
How would they know for certain ???
this guy and his “family” are liars...
The State Department is evidently stubbornly waiting until after next month’s elections to find out the hard way what the public’s tolerance for number of ebola victims is.
Jen is 19 years old. How is she going to know that?
Even if there is not even one more case, the expense and disruption of screening, isolating suspected cases, etc., far exceeds any benefit Americas enjoy as a result of travel from west Africa.
Yeah, it’s morbid. We laugh at death.
Lately, I’ve been posting it dozens of times a day. Can’t wait until its back to a few times a week.
Yeah, I’m sort of sick of that terrible photo he keeps posting to ping these threads.
Hey Null and Void-—how about something like an Obama/Ebola bumper sticker instead?
We already know that the State Dept. will sacrifice its own so how much would they really care about us peons?
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
If there's any doubt, any longer, about the intentions of these evil Marxists, then we are completely beyond help.
” ... by isolating these countries, it would make it harder to help them. It will spread more there, and wed be likely to be exposed more here. So there are reasons for finding ways to address this and address it in ways that are dont intervene as with passengers, while still allowing these countries to travel.”
This kind of BS is this Idiocracy administration’s specialty:
Why, if America quarantines individuals who might be infected, actually we would be less secure ...
“Why do we wave Wahabbis and Liberians through airport security, while making Mr. and Mrs. Joe America spread `em? Because we can.”
In other words, “We know it doesn’t make any sense .... but if you don’t smoke Tarleton, f*** you.”
Maybe Kerry thinks he lives in Unicorn land where he can't catch this...
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