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the new york times rediscovers weapons of mass destruction in iraq
American Spectator ^ | 10.17.14 | Laurie Mylroie, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/17/2014 8:22:13 AM PDT by lasereye

What a difference a decade makes! When it was first reported in May 2004 that Saddam-era chemical weapons shells had injured U.S. troops, the editors of the New York Times dismissed that, “Finding some residual weapons that had escaped a large-scale destruction program would be no great surprise and if the chemicals had degraded, no major threat.” Now, a major New York Times report on the issue has been followed by an editorial warning of “A Deadly Legacy in Iraq”: some 5,000 chemical shells have been discovered over the years in Iraq by U.S. or U.S.-trained Iraqi forces. Many more such munitions litter the wreckage of an old Iraqi weapons facility northwest of Baghdad, which the Islamic State captured in June.

It is widely believed that Saddam Hussein maintained no Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) after the 1991 Gulf War. That was the conclusion of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), which issued its final report on the subject a decade ago—in September 2004. The ISG claimed that already in the summer of 1991, just months after the war, Iraq unilaterally destroyed its prohibited WMD. The new Times report suggests that is false.

Indeed, those who had long followed the issue knew that the ISG’s conclusion couldn’t possibly be true—because the U.N. Special Commission (UNSCOM) destroyed tons of proscribed Iraqi material in the years after the war. UNSCOM was the first U.N. weapons inspection body and worked in Iraq from 1991 to 1998. Saddam ended UNSCOM’s troublesome presence by engineering a series of crises, which culminated in its departure shortly before the start of Operation Desert Fox, Bill Clinton’s four-day December 1998 bombing campaign. (UNSCOM was later replaced by a much weaker body that did not even enter Iraq until late 2002.)

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; iraqwmd; karlrove; lauriemylroie; mylroie; saddam; tokyorove; wmd
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But the White House responded with thunderous silence, as senior figures expressed these views. The late Joseph Shattan, an author, journalist, and speechwriter, including for the Bush White House, was one of those unique individuals who genuinely spoke truth to power—and did so with rare good humor. Some four years ago, Shattan published “The Man Who Elected Barack Obama,” in this magazine, holding Karl Rove responsible for the Bush administration’s crucial failure to respond to the Democratic assault on OIF. On Thursday, the Daily Beast echoed his complaint: Rove judged the issue a political loser and thought it best forgotten—without understanding that such a fundamental matter could never be forgotten, as Shattan wrote.

The next Republican Prez (whenever that is) cannot repeat this silence in the face of continual attacks aspect of the Bush administration. It was ridiculous.

1 posted on 10/17/2014 8:22:13 AM PDT by lasereye
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Yeah, but these WNDs don't really "count" as the WMDs we were supposed to find, so it doesn't matter.

Except to all the people that die from them.

2 posted on 10/17/2014 8:25:11 AM PDT by caligatrux (They always said that the living would envy the dead.)
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To: lasereye

I don’t think it was ridiculous!! I look upon it as another in a long list of validations of my FR tagline.
It really bothers me when THEY make me look good.


3 posted on 10/17/2014 8:26:20 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (N.Y. TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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To: lasereye

Even so, yesterday I saw a big poster ad from RT (Russia Today) website on my street corner crowing about how false those WMD claims were. Trying to get new viewers based on an assertion that has been proved wrong.


4 posted on 10/17/2014 8:26:29 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: lasereye

So Bush was right all along.


5 posted on 10/17/2014 8:32:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: lasereye

I was really irritated by Bush’s lack of defense. Also, what was the point of the military covering up and not collaborating the real WMD story? Trying to hurt some agency, political leader or Collin Powell?

The article and my lefty associates now try to say it was “new production” now old stock piles. Dead is dead, and these things definitely could do that.

The Bush lied thing is almost a religion to a lot of these pigeons. That is want made the NYT article so fascinating to me. Why did they bother with it? What is their game?


6 posted on 10/17/2014 8:35:59 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

of course he was right!

The left just politicized the war for political advantage, like the traitors they are!


7 posted on 10/17/2014 8:37:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: lasereye

I remember when this same news papers were excoriating GW because of this same WMD. Our troops did find these WMD, and left it up to the Iraqis to destroy them. Ooops! Just goes to show you, that if you want anything done right, you have to do it yourself.


8 posted on 10/17/2014 8:38:01 AM PDT by gingerbread
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NYT crosses the line.

The left begins demonizing the NYT...3...2...1!


9 posted on 10/17/2014 8:39:40 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: lasereye

Do people still read the NYT?


10 posted on 10/17/2014 8:43:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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No. They didn’t.

Pity we didn’t have a real POSTUS back then (Reagan). He never would have taken us into that nightmare on trumped up BS.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 8:44:23 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: lasereye

I was in a discussion last week with someone here about Iraqi WMD’s and I recall he (maybe she) continued the usual line that they were not there and that the Bush administration either lied or were themselves misled into using their existence as a justification for the 2003 invasion. I can see mistrusting the CIA on things but when Mossad, MI6, and both the French and German intelligence services concur on something it’s probably a safe bet. I am still waiting on the press to acknowledge the well documented effort by the Russians to move the bulk of Saddam’s arsenal out of Iraq to, again reportedly, Syria during the 14 months of haggling at the UN and in Congress. IIRC, that came out of an interview with a retired Russian intelligence chief.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 8:46:21 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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"What is their game?"

Hillary voted for the Iraq War resolution.

NYT is trying to innoculate Hillary for this.

13 posted on 10/17/2014 8:48:11 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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To: lasereye

One would think the left would tire of eating crow.


14 posted on 10/17/2014 8:50:14 AM PDT by Vaduz
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One would think the left would tire of eating crow.
Kinda hard to eat when "The Architect" blocks the waiter from serving the main course.
15 posted on 10/17/2014 9:05:43 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: FreeAtlanta

What is their game? Obama must now go in and fix Bush’s screw ups.

Why did Bush not report it? Maybe they were concerned with how was president when Saddam purchased the weapons? Could have been Daddy Bush?


16 posted on 10/17/2014 9:21:10 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Bratch

True


17 posted on 10/17/2014 9:26:47 AM PDT by Vaduz
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"Rove judged the issue a political loser and thought it best forgotten—without understanding that such a fundamental matter could never be forgotten, as Shattan wrote."

How could it be a "political loser" to vindicate one of the claims that justified the war? This can ONLY mean that whatever the Bush admin said about WMD's would be viciously slapped down and denied by the media, and that (if this claim is true) Rove therefore recommended that the topic not be resurrected. There is no other explanation for this alleged recommendation than that the media would not accept the facts.
18 posted on 10/17/2014 9:34:05 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: lasereye

Do you seriously believe that the MSM would not have pushed back against ANYTHING the Bush admin said about WMD’s? If they found a cache of atomic bombs, the media would still would have found an excuse to say it didn’t matter, i.e., the Bush admin had not claimed that Iraq possessed atomic bombs in the first place.


19 posted on 10/17/2014 9:36:56 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: lasereye

Rush has a big commentary going on right now about this. He is on fire and doing good.


20 posted on 10/17/2014 9:36:57 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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