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City Threatens to Arrest Ministers Who Refuse to Perform Same-Sex Weddings
Fox News ^ | 10/20/14 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 10/20/2014 12:08:03 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Edited on 10/20/2014 12:44:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Two Christian ministers who own an Idaho wedding chapel were told they had to either perform same-sex weddings or face jail time and up to $1,000 in fines, according to a lawsuit filed Friday in federal court.

Alliance Defending Freedom is representing Donald and Evelyn Knapp, two ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel in Coeur d’Alene.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: coeurdalene; homoagenda; homosexualagenda; idaho; moralabsolutes; wedding; weddings
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This begs the question, if Mr. & Mrs. Knapp were Black ministers and they refused to marry klan members, White supremacists, etc., or if they were rabbis who refused to marry neo nazis or Holocaust deniers, would they still face prosecution?
1 posted on 10/20/2014 12:08:03 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

there will be a lot of Catholic priests in trouble.....exercising their 1st amendment rights.


2 posted on 10/20/2014 12:10:26 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Impala64ssa

It’s time to just separate religious marriage from the legal contract altogether. That’s what they do in France. Considering the fact that gay marriage has been forced down everyone’s throat (with other forms very likely to follow, such as polygamy) then just let Our Wonderful Government have the whole damn legal part. I really think the conservative position should be to separate the legal contract from religious marriage altogether.


3 posted on 10/20/2014 12:13:50 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Impala64ssa
This begs the question, if Mr. & Mrs. Knapp were Black ministers and they refused to marry klan members, White supremacists, etc., or if they were rabbis who refused to marry neo nazis or Holocaust deniers, would they still face prosecution?

No. Pigmentation protection trumps all.

4 posted on 10/20/2014 12:14:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (MAs & PAs Broke busted, disgusted, liberals can't be trusted, throw the bastards into the sea)
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To: Vaquero
It is time for christian men to COWBOY UP! Surround your church, surround you pastor's home and dare anyone to cross to deliver such a warrants! If you let them come for your Pastor they will soon be coming for you!! Time to make the Bundy ranch look like a square dance!

"Well you may not know this, but there's things that gnaw at a man worse than dying."
5 posted on 10/20/2014 12:14:44 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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note how they don’t threaten ANY other religion. particularly muslims.

note that 1.5% has barry saying the us is a muslim country. we have 70-75% considering themselves christian, 50 times that of the muslims, yet he uses govt to smack down on christians.

it’s time to remove these people from office and power forever.


6 posted on 10/20/2014 12:15:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

IOW you want to surrender the whole issue to the Sodomists and other perverts?

Is that your position?


7 posted on 10/20/2014 12:17:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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City Attorney Warren Wilson told The Spokesman-Review in May that the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel likely would be required to follow the ordinance.

Seems to me the residents ought look at the rules for recall, and start some petition circulation against the erstwhile Mr. Warren Wilson.
8 posted on 10/20/2014 12:19:22 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Only a homosexual would want to be “married” by someone who didn’t want to perform the ceremony. Many are petty, political and vindictive like that.


9 posted on 10/20/2014 12:20:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kartographer
Better be careful what you wish for.



10 posted on 10/20/2014 12:25:54 PM PDT by Bratch
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ity Attorney Warren Wilson told The Spokesman-Review in May that the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel likely would be required to follow the ordinance. “I would think that the Hitching Post would probably be considered a place of public accommodation that would be subject to the ordinance,” he said. He also told television station KXLY that any wedding chapel that turns away a gay couple would in theory be a violation of the law “and you’re looking at a potential misdemeanor citation.” Wilson confirmed to Knapp in a telephone conversation that even ordained ministers would be required to perform same-sex weddings, the lawsuit alleges. “Wilson also responded that Mr. Knapp was not exempt from the ordinance because the Hitching Post was a business and not a church,” the lawsuit states. And if he refused to perform the ceremonies, Wilson reportedly told the minister that he could be fined up to $1,000 and serve up to 180 days in jail.

Recall Rules Idaho

In case anyone is here from Coeur d'Alene, and wants to gret the ball rolling against Wilson
11 posted on 10/20/2014 12:29:56 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Sounds fine to me. The only reason they want it is because Churches refuse to do it. That would stop them. The government has no place in religious institutions.


12 posted on 10/20/2014 12:35:06 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.- John Adams)
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What would be conservative about that?

The Puritans and Pilgrims didn’t have “religious marriage” at all, it is apparently a newer idea than that. Marriage between a man and a woman going back thousands of years has the been the bedrock of civilization.

Giving that up would not be “conservative”


13 posted on 10/20/2014 12:38:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Impala64ssa

If the reinfection rate is higher than 1.0 then you have a high potential for a pandemic. The CDC has estimated the reinfection rate, R, as higher than 1.7. That is near disaster level.


“For profit” means someone is earning an income. You don’t give up your constitutional rights in order to earn an income.

This is why Hobby Lobby won.


14 posted on 10/20/2014 12:43:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Then it’s time for them to stop being a tax paying, for profit business and become a non-profit, tax exempt church.

I don’t see the problem here. The city loses tax revenue is all. The pastors with some savvy legal help will still be able to earn a living, preach to the masses, and perform weddings that meet the Christian definition.


15 posted on 10/20/2014 12:45:03 PM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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“there will be a lot of Catholic priests in trouble.....exercising their 1st amendment rights.”

The government officials would not start by going after the Catholic Church for standing up for their doctrine and not performing gay marriages.

Instead, the government goes after the less powerful Hitching Post Church Wedding Chapel. I’m guessing that the Hitching Post does not quite have financial resources of the Roman Catholic Church and that makes the Hitching Post Church a prime target for the government in a court of law.


16 posted on 10/20/2014 12:45:22 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

It’s time to just separate religious marriage from the legal contract altogether.


That’s been my perspective for quite a while - even when the homosexuals were only fighting for “civil unions”. I’m a binary (black and white) thinker and it is how I’ve seen it all along.


17 posted on 10/20/2014 12:45:47 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Wilson confirmed to Knapp in a telephone conversation that even ordained ministers would be required to perform same-sex weddings.

The heart of why a city attorney needs to be recalled - He ignores the 1st amendment...
18 posted on 10/20/2014 12:45:56 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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Interesting how this is happening in Idaho, the reddest of red states.

The good folks there need to band together and remind the mental midgets at Town Hall who is the boss.


19 posted on 10/20/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Impala64ssa

A suitable religious response would be “Go to hell!”


20 posted on 10/20/2014 12:47:30 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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