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ssue 35: Cleveland's traffic cameras to be removed
WKYC-TV Cleveland | 7:06 a.m. EST November 5, 2014 | WKYC Staff

Posted on 11/07/2014 8:49:30 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican

A Gannett propaganda outlet is the source.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: automobile; car; cleveland; drivers; driving; enforcement; motorist; ohio; redlight; traffic; trafficenforcement
Cleveland overwhelmingly rejects red light and speed camera enforcement.
1 posted on 11/07/2014 8:49:30 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I had to laugh at the push by the opponents to this bill that said the cameras were necessary to “protect children” - as if these cameras are set up in school zones.

Granted, I don’t drive everywhere in the county, but there are exactly three places on my regular commute that have traffic cameras set up. Without exception, all three are in industrial areas monitoring speeding. Generally because the speed limits are set ridiculously low for the traffic and road conditions.

The only times speeding in these areas would be dangerous is during rush hour, and typically you’re lucky if you can even go the speed limit at those times.

It’s basically revenue enhancement. There are no children to save and nothing safety related his happening.

One is close enough to my home that I’ve given serious thought to the Brits’ speed camera solution...

2 posted on 11/07/2014 8:54:28 AM PST by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: chrisser; OneLoyalAmerican

I know someone well who is a major power broker in Cleveland.

About a year ago he, along with several other fat cats, was involved in a zoning or some property-related struggle with City Hall.

His trump card was circulating the petition to remove the cameras. Several city council members candidly admitted the cameras were strictly a cash cow and they were obviously worried about losing $13M+ annually.

I can’t say for sure that the players forced the government’s hands but with or without the arm-twisting good riddance to the cameras, good riddance to politicians moaning about safety and good riddance to thickheaded soccer moms who buy the propaganda.

3 posted on 11/07/2014 9:02:46 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

In the three years since red light cameras were removed from our little town, 11 deaths have been attributed to red light runners including a 17 year old girl on her way to get a prom dress. I myself have had 4 very close calls this year alone. One was a migrant with a van full of people who actually passed behind me through the intersection after running the red light. He was gazing at his cell phone at what I estimated to be 70 Mph in a 45 Mph zone. I no longer trust green lights.

4 posted on 11/07/2014 9:08:00 AM PST by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Blue Jays
Countless studies have been done on traffic enforcement cameras.
They do not increase safety.
The same careless/cellphone/texting driver is still just as likely to ignorantly miss the traffic signal.

They do cause a dramatic rise in rear-end collisions because local drivers will even begin braking before "old" green lights and will frequently SLAM on brakes at yellow lights for fear of an automated ticket.
In both of those circumstances where proceeding safely through an intersection is the appropriate course of action.
Visiting out-of-area motorists may not realize why another driver is slowing for a green light or recklessly braking for a light that *just* turned yellow a millisecond prior.

Don't even get going on the topic of towns intentionally shortening the yellow light window to CREATE a group of so-called red light offenders who would not even normally exist.
5 posted on 11/07/2014 9:33:51 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: chrisser

No matter what they say, it is about generating revenues. Any talk of “safety” is nothing but whitewash.

6 posted on 11/07/2014 12:24:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m glad the legislation passed.

The next step might be to pass new legislation to make sure the yellow lights get set back to defined standards since many appear to have been coincidentally shortened to generate more red light revenue.

7 posted on 11/07/2014 1:58:33 PM PST by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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