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Seth Rogen versus Sarah Palin: Is 'American Sniper' pro-war or patriotic?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | JANUARY 20, 2015 | Peter Grier

Posted on 01/24/2015 8:00:33 PM PST by PreciousLiberty

Is “American Sniper” a hugely divisive American phenomenon?

That’s the impression you’d get from reading a lot of pundits’ just-baked hot takes about the wildly popular Clint Eastwood-directed flick.

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Mr. Moore tweeted that his uncle was killed by a sniper in World War II and that he’d been raised to believe snipers “cowards.” Mr. Rogen, fresh off the international incident created by his North Korean movie “The Interview,” opined that “American Sniper” reminded him of a fake film that’s showing near the end of the Quentin Tarantino’s World War II movie “Inglourious Basterds.” That film showed a German sniper killing Allied soldiers from a clock tower. Thus some drew the conclusion that Rogen was comparing “Sniper” to Nazi propaganda.

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On the other hand, there were reviewers who found “Sniper” a jittery and realistic depiction of the way real soldiers feel and act and react to the horrible stress of combat. Other defenders of the flick simply said it depicted an American hero and that criticism of its politics was a thinly veiled attack on Oscar-winning director Eastwood, who spoke at the 2012 Republican National Convention.

Moore’s and Rogen's comments thus sparked some predictable outrage. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich tweeted over the weekend that “Michael Moore should spend a few weeks with ISIS and Boko Haram. Then he might appreciate @AmericanSniper. I am proud of our defenders.”

Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin jumped into the fray, posting on her Facebook page a denunciation of the film’s critics.

“Hollywood leftists: while caressing shiny plastic trophies you exchange among one another while spitting on the graves of freedom fighters who allow you to do what you do, just realize the rest of America knows you’re not fit to shine Chris Kyle’s combat boots,” the post read, in part.

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Question: Is 'American Sniper' pro-war or patriotic?

Answer: Yes

(Queue the "has war ever really solved anything" memes...)

1 posted on 01/24/2015 8:00:34 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!


2 posted on 01/24/2015 8:03:33 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: PreciousLiberty

Funny how Jude Law didn’t face angry liberals for his portrayal of a sniper in ‘Enemy At The Gates’.. Selective indignation


3 posted on 01/24/2015 8:05:31 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: PreciousLiberty

It is not pro war. It portrays the horrors of war and the impact on those that fight them.


4 posted on 01/24/2015 8:06:21 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: PreciousLiberty

Only a real idiot is pro war. You avoid wars by being strong. It’s is appeasers like Neville Chamberlain, Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama who get us into the really big wars.


5 posted on 01/24/2015 8:07:41 PM PST by fhayek
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To: PreciousLiberty

Because killing a man a mile away with artillery fire is not being a coward?


6 posted on 01/24/2015 8:09:23 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: PreciousLiberty

It is not pro-war. We did not start the war. There is a very good reason we went to war and if that reason had no happened there would have not been a war.


7 posted on 01/24/2015 8:10:33 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Oldexpat

It’s both. It portrays the horrible impact of war, but it also celebrates it’s righteousness. Christendom has been defending itself from Satan’s troops for almost 600 years. More Vlad, less Barack. More Clint!


8 posted on 01/24/2015 8:12:27 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: ArtDodger

Jude Law didn’t face criticism for “Enemy at the Gates” because it was a leftist/socialist/Communist fellow traveller army sniper who was defending the Soviet Union and the uber socialist way of life. The rules are always different for fringe lunatic liberals.


9 posted on 01/24/2015 8:13:10 PM PST by Sasparilla (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: PreciousLiberty; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Bender2; stephenjohnbanker; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Too bad Moore’s dad didn’t die instead of his uncle, America would be smarter, and thinner.

I haven’t seen the movie yet but it doesn’t sound like it’s political at all, and if it’s not explicitly anti-war and anti-Bush that makes it “pro-war” as far as the d*ckheads are concerned. What a sorry bunch of worthless *hits. If anyone had any doubt that leftists don’t passionately loathe American soldiers, you can put that to bed.


10 posted on 01/24/2015 8:14:56 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Went to the sold out 450 seat IMAX 4PM showing today at Tysons Corner. I find
it hard to believe either one of those POSs actually watched it.

At the end of the movie, no one moved or got out of their seats till after the first
credits rolled and no one made a noise the entire time the movie let out. It was
as if you were leaving a funeral.


11 posted on 01/24/2015 8:15:26 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Laughter is the best medicine, unless you have diarrhea.)
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To: ArtDodger
Funny how Jude Law didn’t face angry liberals for his portrayal of a sniper in ‘Enemy At The Gates’.. Selective indignation

Good catch. The heroic Soviet snipers kill the evil Ed Harris, master instructor of the Berlin sniper school. Surge the swelling chords of "The Internationale", fade to red.

I'm making popcorn and looking forward to Sarah and her fish-filled boots (in libruls' political cartoons) kicking Rogen's round, cushy ass all over the place. -- Want some? (Popcorn, that is.)

Next up: Sarah and Michael Moore in a cage death-match. Got tix?

12 posted on 01/24/2015 8:16:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: PreciousLiberty

So what was Moore’s uncle getting ready to do when the sniper took him out? Set up an IED to blow up an American task force? Attack an American force with RPGs and machine guns? Chris Kyle was doing an over watch mission. His mission WAS NOT to just shoot people. If you read the book, you could say that he was actually an ANTI-sniper. His mission was to IMMEDIATELY remove any threat that was preparing to kill Americans soldiers and Marines. Hey fatso! Watch the movie or read the book before you open your big mouth! You shouldn’t bad mouth what you don’t understand or have any clue about.


13 posted on 01/24/2015 8:17:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When the hell do I get MY white privilege? I'm tired of busting my @$$ for a living.)
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To: Oldexpat

The movie is pro Patriot.


14 posted on 01/24/2015 8:17:21 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Laughter is the best medicine, unless you have diarrhea.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

To me it’s neither. It’s telling a story about a guy in war. Just like “Hell Is For Hero’s” or “Alvin York” or any other war story. Maybe “Patton” could be but still .... now a movie like “Yankee Doodle Dandy” starring James Cagney can be deemed patriotic. I don’t think Americans are pro-war. We’re brought into one like WW1 and WW2, we fight and then just want to go home back to a normal life. I feel that Germany could be used as an example of making films that were pro-war. IMHO


15 posted on 01/24/2015 8:17:43 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: PreciousLiberty; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Bender2; stephenjohnbanker; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...
Oops minor mistake.

Too bad Moore’s dad didn’t die instead of his uncle, America would be smarter, and thinner.

I haven’t seen the movie yet but it doesn’t sound like it’s political at all, and if it’s not explicitly anti-war and anti-Bush that makes it “pro-war” as far as the d*ckheads are concerned. What a sorry bunch of worthless *hits. If anyone had any doubt that leftists don’t passionately loathe American soldiers, you can put that to bed.

16 posted on 01/24/2015 8:18:24 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

This thing asks a question but is there an email or something for us to give him an answer??


17 posted on 01/24/2015 8:22:23 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Clint N. Suhks
It was as if you were leaving a funeral.

You kinda were. Good to see you again, FRiend.

Postscript: I liked the motorcycle escort and the (visible in one shot) Texas flag with the Gadsden rattlesnake on it. That was about the only "political" reference, but it was impossible to miss that Clint was pointing right at us. That's why liberals hate the film, and him, so much. Let them hate us... Oderint dum metuant, the Roman said.

18 posted on 01/24/2015 8:22:34 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: PreciousLiberty; onyx; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; ...
Book Mark Ping to Sarah's List!

War is Hell.

The Answer Remains what it was on September 12th, 2001.

I understood that then I was only 13.


19 posted on 01/24/2015 8:31:59 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Oldexpat

“It is not pro war. It portrays the horrors of war and the impact on those that fight them.”

I think, as with many things, that the term “pro-war” is not specific enough. Clearly, there are times that war is the best alternative. That does not make it desirable, it is only necessary. That is what most define as “pro-war”.

The problem with many in this country is they refuse to admit the necessity.

Was the Iraq War “necessary”? That’s entirely arguable, but clearly our leaders at the time thought so. I personally believe there was sufficient justification. Do a search on “Iraq anthrax”....


20 posted on 01/24/2015 8:32:36 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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