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LaPierre: 'Next 700 days are the most dangerous' for 2nd Amendment
Washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 3-8-2015 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 03/09/2015 1:13:05 AM PDT by servo1969

The National Rifle Association is warning that the administration's plan to ban one type of AR-15 ammo is just the first step in taking away all hunting rounds, a backdoor bid to impose national gun control.

"He can't ban their guns so he's going to ban their ammo," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, the nation's largest organization promoting the Second Amendment.

His warning was the latest chapter on a new bid by the administration to ban the popular 5.56 M855 "green tip" ammunition used by AR-15 rifle.

Last month the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives moved to classify the round as "armor piercing" and then ban it, claiming it is a threat to police as more people buy AR-15 style pistols. AR type rifles are among the nation's most popular.

Without getting into the issue that the round currently isn't made of metals considered in legislation as armor piercing, LaPierre told Fox's Lou Dobbs that if the administration succeeds in banning the small 5.56 ammo because it can pierce body armor, then it will likely come after even bigger rounds.

Showing a chart on Dobbs' show of cartridges small to large, LaPierre said, "If he can ban that, because it pierces soft body armor, he can also ban the .30-06, a really popular hunting cartridge, he can ban the other two hunting cartridges there, the .300 Win Mag, the .375. He can ban every cartridge in between. That in fact under this standard he can ban all rifle cartridges because all of them pierce soft body armor."

Rifle ammo has been exempted from the ban because it isn't typically used in crime. Police agree and say the ban isn't needed.

While the NRA is one of the nation's most powerful lobbying groups, LaPierre warned that the administration could get away with the ban.

"I think he's going to proceed," he said. Referring to the rest of the president's term, he added, "The next 700 days are the most dangerous days in the history of the Second Amendment."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; banglist; gun; guncontrol; guns; lapierre; nra; obama; secondamendment; waynelapierre

1 posted on 03/09/2015 1:13:05 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

CW2 here we come.


2 posted on 03/09/2015 1:19:04 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running like a watercolor in the rain)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It can’t come fast enough...


3 posted on 03/09/2015 2:01:25 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War II needs to happen.)
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To: servo1969

This is going to drive the price on rifle rounds now too. We already have scarce 22LR and 22MRF - now add SS109s and all those rounds that can penetrate a vest.


4 posted on 03/09/2015 3:27:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I call it the 4th or 5th (number varies based on your read of history) English Civil War. Or the 2nd English civil war on American soil

Same issue as usual. One class Englishman wishes to rule another.


5 posted on 03/09/2015 4:00:36 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Gaffer
"...and all those rounds that can penetrate a vest."

Which, for all practical purposes, would be any decent hunting round.

6 posted on 03/09/2015 4:00:38 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Yep....that’s their plan.


7 posted on 03/09/2015 4:01:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: servo1969

now is the time for all good american congressmen and senators to pass legislation making the ATF null and void..PERIOD..... NO whining, no making excuses,, cancel the suckers OUT !!!! KICK their donkeys to the curb. Slap them so hard their mother cries... stop this foolishness in its’ tracks...


8 posted on 03/09/2015 4:31:16 AM PDT by contrarian (No-wouldn't be prudent)
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To: contrarian
Repeal the enabling legislation - that's the only way to render ATF inert. Leave the laws in place and the Feds will simply shuffle enforcement duties to another agency.

Sadly, even if the GOP held the White House and supermajorities in both houses of Congress, they'd still balk at such a suggestion.

9 posted on 03/09/2015 4:52:22 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: servo1969

“Showing a chart on Dobbs’ show of cartridges small to large, LaPierre said, “If he can ban that, because it pierces soft body armor, he can also ban the .30-06, a really popular hunting cartridge, he can ban the other two hunting cartridges there, the .300 Win Mag, the .375. He can ban every cartridge in between. That in fact under this standard he can ban all rifle cartridges because all of them pierce soft body armor.”

Plenty of common handgun ammo will pierce soft body armor. 44 mag hunting ammo would be one example.


10 posted on 03/09/2015 4:54:35 AM PDT by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: servo1969

Not up on body armor, but wouldn’t even a BTHP at 2800 FPS be more than enough to penetrate a typical Kevlar vest?


11 posted on 03/09/2015 5:14:54 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: jughandle
The bottom line is that most center fire rifle rounds will penetrate the level 2A vest that most LEOs wear. Any round that can be fired from a handgun other than a single shot pistol that will penetrate soft body armor can be classified as “armor piercing” and banned by an ATF “ruling.” Remember the cheap 7.62x39 steel jacket ammo that is now long gone. Also rounds can also be banned by their material construction. The M855 (SS109) were expressly exempted by law from this provision.
12 posted on 03/09/2015 6:26:03 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: bruoz

Thanks, that what I thought, the vests were made mostly for the slower handgun rounds.


13 posted on 03/09/2015 6:44:09 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Gaffer
We already have scarce 22LR and 22MRF - now add SS109s and all those rounds that can penetrate a vest.

And target practice will no longer be for center mass, but for a narrower spot, above the armor and below the helmet.

14 posted on 03/09/2015 12:26:48 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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