Skip to comments.Gays in America and Overcoming the “Ick” Factor
Posted on 04/11/2015 6:56:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
Normally, I would not even think about the concept of digging into my past studies in sociology when writing anything for the political arena, but when it comes to social issues, focusing purely on politics can definitely do everyone a disservice. When it comes to the latest round of gay rights activists trying to push their agenda on the masses, I decided it was time to drag out the sociology at least a little. Erick Erickson observations here on the gay rights movement pushing their agenda too hard when it comes to religion were spot on. However, examining just the legal and religious principles in play isn't quite enough.
Beyond the gay rights movement going too far by suggesting that it is time to start dictating religious doctrine, there is another issue that they have inadvertently put precariously close to the table in this debate. The primary reason why the gay rights movement has enjoyed the success that it has up until now is that it has been very careful to place the private side of the issue behind a wall. Messaging has been almost exclusively about treating all people equally, and the activists have generally been very careful to keep the sex lives of gays and bisexuals out of the dialogue. It was a brilliant choice, because it's fair to assume that many Americans would have negative visceral responses to seeing and hearing about those activities on a regular basis.
It has been a bizarre balancing act that involves a group of people defining themselves by their sexual proclivities, while simultaneously keeping the actual sex acts out of view. Now that the movement is trying to force changes in religious doctrine to find their lifestyle acceptable, that balancing act is going to be more difficult to maintain. The bottom line is that religions consider gay sex sodomy, if you prefer a sin. The wall that the gay rights movement built to hide what they do in bed from the public view will need to come down at least a little to win this battle.
From a sociological standpoint, that will be opening another can of worms for gay activists. We can easily see why just by looking at popular culture. While there are many gay characters in television and film now, the depiction of gay sex outside of the adult film industry remains a rarity, and for good reason. Even people that are supportive of gay rights would not necessarily want to see what the people they support do in bed. Call it the ick factor if you like, but it is a simple fact of life that gay activists have avoided facing so far. We simply haven't reached a point in our culture where homosexual behavior can be completely normalized, and it's not just religious doctrine standing in the way.
The entertainment industry just recently showed us this, in the form of the HBO series Looking, which followed the social lives of a group of gay men in San Francisco. Due to falling ratings, HBO canceled it. While critics may have battled back and forth about the quality of the show in general, the most likely reason why the show did not take off had nothing to do with production values. The general public simply wasn't interested in delving into the personal lives of gay men. The irony is that the gay rights movement itself might have had a hand in that, because it has been so careful to keep the nuts and bolts of the gay lifestyle out of the spotlight.
Now, it will probably get sunlight that they do not want, because instead of just having to battle the evil Christian bigots, they may also see losses in support elsewhere. It was fine and even fashionable to support gay rights when one didn't have to think about anyone actually engaging in gay sex. No one should be surprised if we end up seeing some people admit to at least a little revulsion toward gays, assuming that the dialogue truly does turn to the actual sins involved. Arguably, the ball is in the court of religious leaders now. The question is, are they willing to speak explicitly about sin for the sake of protecting religious liberty?
I will never get over the ick factor of buttsecs.
From my perspective, most of “gay sex” is actually sado-masochistic. There’s something about pain and degradation that they find appealing; the same is true for self-destruction. Don’t get me wrong; it’s all perfectly natural, of course. But it seems a bit unusual.
a tv show following the lives of “gay” men in Scam Francrisco? Gee it sure missed that one
“Call it the ick factor if you like,”
Okay I shall henceforth refer to it thusly!!
the ick factor..the sick factor ..
In the context of the Memories Pizza incident, they just don’t get that after seeing their “pride parades” normal people are just creeped out at the idea of having to go to one of their social events, like a wedding reception.
And to argue that many non-homosexuals like anal "sex" makes it the same as heterosexual sex misses the point that those heteros are mentally disordered themselves.
Because a person can do something weird/strange with their organ does not make that action normal. Like Larry Flynt having carnal knowledge of chickens makes Flynt highly mental.
Did someone say "ick",sweet cheeks?
Sorry, but "Ick" and "Poop" are pretty much inseparable.
Eww, just the thought of it would someone want to throw up
It is a poor workman who cannot understand the proper usage of a simple tool.
Indeed—Perhaps Ms. Harrison should be writing in another venue.
I could write a book about the amazing bravery/decency *and* the despicable cowardice/depravity I saw during my years there.
I remember Phil Robertson getting into trouble for some remarks he made, and I think the reason he got so much flak is because he alluded to what gays actually DO. He said something like, how could a man prefer another man’s anatomy, when a woman’s anatomy is so much more appealing, or words to that effect. His big crime was reminding people, even in a subtle way, of what gay men actually DO.
For a long time, gays and their advocates have gotten away with portraying gay characters as the most lovable and appealing characters on every TV show, and hoping straights don’t think about what actually goes on behind closed doors beyond the gay kisses. It’s time we stopped letting them get away with that.
The left has been successful on the social/moral side by keeping the realities of the preferred behaviors behind a curtain. Abortion? ha! that’s framed as ‘a woman’s right to choose’ rather than vacuuming a baby out of its mother’s womb. Similarly, ‘gay’ sexual activity vs. “equality’ is kept separate from the debate. It’s past time to bring these activities to the forefront for exactly what they are.
Sorry, still get freaked out seeing to guys grouping each other in public. Jeeze, what’s wrong with them?
Sorry to them as I can not get past that yucky view of two of the same sex together.
I feel like puking now.
“.Then there are the occasions in which a pervert came to us with a foreign object stuck in his out door.More ick factor. “
serious? LOL! How did he explain that?
The plain facts are most Americans will never get past the ick factor. Most people avoid trying to think about what homos do in the bedroom. They don't want to lose their lunch.
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