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Calif. Says Alleged Recycling Scam Trucked In Bottles & Cans From Ariz. For $14M In Illegal Refunds
Consumerist ^ | May 8, 2015

Posted on 05/11/2015 2:29:41 PM PDT by SMGFan

It might just be a bunch of bottles and cans, but when you get enough recyclables together it can mean a hefty wad of cash. California authorities say a group involved in an alleged illegal recycling scheme was flush with $14 million in refunds after trucking roughly 250 million cans and bottles from out of state and redeeming them.

A grand jury indicted five California residents on charges including grand theft and recycling fraud in March, reports the Associated Press, but the details of the case were just announced Thursday by California’s Department of Resources Recycling and Recovery, or CalRecycle.

(Excerpt) Read more at consumerist.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arizona; california; recycle; recycling; seinfeld
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Kramer and Newman tried that on Seinfeld. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdsU_cn8u8E
1 posted on 05/11/2015 2:29:41 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdsU_cn8u8E


2 posted on 05/11/2015 2:29:53 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: SMGFan; Gamecock; Larry Lucido

I always use Kramer and Newman when I recycle.

They’re the best!


3 posted on 05/11/2015 2:31:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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Well, were they recycled or not?
If they were, then the system worked, if not then THAT
is fraud.


4 posted on 05/11/2015 2:31:44 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SMGFan; Gamecock; F15Eagle; Larry Lucido; cripplecreek; GraceG; SevenofNine
SMGFan beat everyone to the Punch.

I would say "Seinfeld did it!"

But my Father told me years ago he had come up with the same scheme to try and get Bottles to Michigan for the higher price and failed to the exact same reason. Sadly he did have a USPS truck on had to cancel out the transportation costs. :/

5 posted on 05/11/2015 2:33:22 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: tet68

That’s what I was thinking (what you said).


6 posted on 05/11/2015 2:36:08 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: SMGFan

This must have happened on the mother of all holidays.


7 posted on 05/11/2015 2:36:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: SMGFan

8 posted on 05/11/2015 2:37:12 PM PDT by drpix
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So they crack the whip On illegal trash but skate on illegal immigrants???


9 posted on 05/11/2015 2:43:29 PM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: SMGFan

If recycling cans is such a wonderful thing, what’s the problem?


10 posted on 05/11/2015 2:47:45 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: SMGFan

Are the dumb asses in government going to get the money back?


11 posted on 05/11/2015 2:47:53 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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So they crack the whip On illegal trash but skate on illegal immigrants???

Stop the cans but not the illegals!


12 posted on 05/11/2015 2:49:49 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Isn’t socialism grand...???


13 posted on 05/11/2015 2:50:43 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SMGFan

that was a classic episode....


14 posted on 05/11/2015 2:50:58 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

they need to use illegals to transport the illegal cans.


15 posted on 05/11/2015 2:53:15 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: tet68

The fraud is that you get extorted by the state every time you buy a bottle or can of drink in order to “encourage” you to recycle it and get your money back. Apparently people were recycling cans for which the state didn’t get to extort money from the original purchaser. I am happy to see California’s stupid behavioral modification program defrauded.


16 posted on 05/11/2015 2:55:19 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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Calif. Says Alleged Recycling Scam Trucked In Bottles & Cans From Ariz. For $14M In Illegal Refunds.

Chump change to the real scammers operating in California since the program became law.

I have monitored my local official recycling site two or three times a year since the program began and in EVERY transaction the client was short-changed.*

I see only two explanations for this. First, the accuracy of their scales is NOT monitored by the Counties' department of weights and measures.
Or two, this particular recycler cheats on the tare weight.

No one knows what tolerance they are expected to meet (2% error? 29%?) So the error has remained consistent at 5-10% in the recycling company's favor.

I guess our elected criminals decided that so long as the amount is small, it's fine to cheat tens of millions of recyclers by just a bit.

But it adds up!

* I would make up bags containing 120 counted cans.
I always added one can in case I miscounted.

I never, once, got the full amount of $6.00!

The weights and measures folks should be able easily to calculate the odds of that happening.

But it is definitely grand larceny.

17 posted on 05/11/2015 2:59:03 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: drpix

That’s exactly what came to my mind !!!


18 posted on 05/11/2015 3:02:35 PM PDT by 11th_VA (where's Brutus?)
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To: SMGFan

When gov’t (Calif. in this case) sets up a poorly thought out program, people will naturally take advantage of it. And those that enacted the program are surprised? Duh.


19 posted on 05/11/2015 3:02:39 PM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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Recycling fraud? Damn, probably a life sentence in Kalifornia.


20 posted on 05/11/2015 3:09:41 PM PDT by PROCON (I AM PAMELA GELLER.............(but in manly guy form :-))
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