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GOP Groups to Fellow Republicans: Don't Fight the Supreme Court on Gay Marriage
National Journal ^ | June 24, 2015 | Emma Roller

Posted on 06/25/2015 9:03:37 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

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To: unixfox

When over sixty perfect of the population wants same-sex marriage, not sure it is still my country.


41 posted on 06/25/2015 9:30:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Vision Thing

My “blue state” is one of those still fighting gay marriage.


42 posted on 06/25/2015 9:32:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I shouldnt say most Americans “supported” slavery, I mean most Americans were likely ambivalent to the plight of the blacks in the South and I believe that if Americans knew that almost 700,000 American boys would have died in that states rights issue, Lincoln never would have had his splendid little war


43 posted on 06/25/2015 9:32:42 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I will always love the country that was. Love for the central North American entity south of Canada and north of Mexico, not so much.


44 posted on 06/25/2015 9:32:55 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I mean actual leftist Democrats created fake front groups labeled “conservative” and argues for leftist causes. Just so the media can say “see even conservative groups are for it”

Even the guy who started Facebook had one.


45 posted on 06/25/2015 9:34:31 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Nailed it!


46 posted on 06/25/2015 9:37:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Amen brother! I won’t be bullied or silenced.
God will be the judge and have ALL the final say. I am committed to being on His side. Fear God, not man.


47 posted on 06/25/2015 9:47:57 AM PDT by Clump (I'd rather die with my boots on than live wearing a pair of knee pads.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It is not the Country. It is the people in it. I understand that the people make up the Country, therefore, we are in one hell of a mess. For now and the forseeable future. These young Obama worshipers have no idea of the misery they are in for.


48 posted on 06/25/2015 9:52:40 AM PDT by sport
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“We just want the right to be with a dying loved one in the hospital” to people of conscience being fined, fired, not allowed to graduate from college, and even jailed for merely stating their belief that homosexuality is wrong.”

Kinda like denying the holocaust, global warming or blacks
committing more crimes than whites.

Just to be clear, I DO NOT DENY THE HOLOCAUST.
Sad for having to say that.


49 posted on 06/25/2015 9:54:22 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Fixed polls are better than fixed voting!!!

Less stress on our elite masters.


50 posted on 06/25/2015 9:54:32 AM PDT by donna (Polls are mob rule . . . faked.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Those polls are bogus. If they had that much support, they could pass this at the ballot box instead of relying on the courts.


51 posted on 06/25/2015 9:54:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GeronL

That’s what I have thought for a long time now. I wonder how many of Boehner’s minions are just that, “sleeper” leftists in GOP clothing. It’s way past the point of “GOP establishment”.


52 posted on 06/25/2015 9:55:20 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Boogieman

Tylenol commercials are promoting homosexuality. They would not do that unless they believed the majority of customers would approve. Business is business. And the list goes on and on.

We lost.


53 posted on 06/25/2015 10:03:43 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Not that they approve, but that the vast majority won’t disapprove enough to not buy their product.


54 posted on 06/25/2015 10:07:44 AM PDT by paul544
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“Two right-leaning groups—American Unity Fund and Project Right Side—are releasing a poll that they say shows that most voters support gay marriage, and a higher proportion of Republicans support gay marriage than measured before.”

Yeah, right. Lets govern by your phony polls. For example, if I recall correctly, gay marriage was voted down by a majority of voters in no less the left leaning state of california (overturned by an activist court).


55 posted on 06/25/2015 10:09:41 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

In 2010, Mehlman came out as gay in an interview with journalist Marc Ambinder, making him one of the few prominent openly gay figures in the Republican Party. Since coming out, Mehlman has advocated for the recognition of same-sex marriage

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Ken Mehlman Launches Gay Rights Project

The former RNC chairman created Project Right Side, a research and analysis nonprofit, with the belief that conservatives succeed when they “attract new supporters to timeless traditions.”

“Some misperceive the issue of marriage equality as exclusively progressive. Yet what could be more conservative than support for more freedom and less government? And what freedom is more basic than the right to marry the person you love? Smaller, less intrusive government surely includes an individual deciding whom to marry. Allowing civil marriage for same-sex couples will cultivate community stability, encourage fidelity and commitment, and foster family values.

“Conservatives don’t need to change core convictions to embrace the growing support for equal rights for gay Americans. It is sufficient to recognize the inherent conservatism in citizens’ desire to marry, to be judged on their work, and not to be singled out for higher taxes or bullying at school. These objectives can be achieved while also protecting religious liberty, as demonstrated by states enacting civil marriage with exemptions for religious institutions.”

After leaving the RNC, Mehlman worked for the law firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld and, in 2008, subsequently joined Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, a multinational private equity firm, as Global Head of Public Affairs.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2012/11/21/ken-mehlman-launches-gay-rights-project


56 posted on 06/25/2015 10:30:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: lowbridge

Meet the billionaire hedge fund manager quietly shaping the GOP gay marriage debate (American Unity Fund)

Paul E. Singer, who over the years has used his wealth to spur Republicans to support gay marriage laws. Now, Singer is expanding his reach with the creation of an advocacy group which aims to spend millions influencing the legislative debate over same-sex marriage across the country.

Singer, the 68-year-old founder of Elliott Management Corporation, is not a newcomer to the political battle over gay rights. He coaxed Republican state senators in New York to back a same-sex marriage law in 2011, offering financial cover against backlash stemming from their votes, helping raise six figures for each of them.

The public side of the intra-party debate over gay marriage was visible when Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) declared support for same-sex marriage, setting off a renewed debate about the issue in the GOP.

For Singer, there is a personal connection to the issue. His son is gay, and got married in Massachusetts, something Singer mentioned in a 2010 speech at a fundraiser for the American Foundation for Equal Rights.

Singer started American Unity PAC in 2012, infusing the operation with a big early donation. The super PAC spent over $2 million on congressional races last cycle, according to data compiled by the Center

Several months ago, Singer laid the groundwork for American Unity Fund, an 501(c)(4) nonprofit affiliated with the super PAC. The effort was officially announced last week. It’s an effort to branch into advocacy and lobbying, and to delve further into legislative battles at the state level.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/05/03/meet-the-billionaire-hedge-fund-manager-quietly-shaping-the-gop-gay-marriage-debate/


57 posted on 06/25/2015 10:35:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
However, the inevitability of this ruling occurred many years ago and is not so much the fault of liberal activists but of the millions of so-called conservatives who were conscientious objectors in the culture war. Once the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence vs. Texas in 2003 legalizing homosexuality throughout the United States, the culture war was basically over.

It was over when George HW Bush made a deal with the Democrats to raise taxes.

That made him vulnerable to challenge, and put him within the reach of the media's ability to use their power to sway the election to Clinton.

Once you got Clinton, his psychotic Liberal appointees were a foregone conclusion.

No, the nexus of the destruction of our nation was George Herbert Walker Bush's breaking of his promise.

All subsequent disasters were a consequence of that attempted compromise with Democrats. That is the focal point of history where the future swerved into evil.

58 posted on 06/25/2015 10:37:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: manc
I won’t shut up to homosexuals or anyone about this.

Scream at the top of your lungs, few will hear you. You don't have transmitters that reach millions, so your opinion is of no import to them.

I am in the same boat.

Power in this nation comes out of the end of Antenna arrays.

59 posted on 06/25/2015 10:39:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Vision Thing
As long as you say you love the red states, you’ll be fine. The blue states may seem like they are winning, but they are too dumb to notice they are on the road to self destruction.

If the word "Winning" means "Popular" then they are "winning." If it means sustainable and survivable, then they are not "winning."

These same sorts of people were "Winning" in Rome shortly before the Barbarians sacked it.

These ideas arise through civilizations all throughout human history. That Judeo-Christianity persists long after they are gone, demonstrates how transient is their "win."

60 posted on 06/25/2015 10:43:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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