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Gay weddings: who must perform them?
Baptist Press ^ | June 26, 2015 | David Roach

Posted on 06/30/2015 10:09:23 AM PDT by xzins

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To: dware

I doubt it has ever come up with folks who told me about it. If you search ‘independent Baptists interracial marriage’ a few stories come up, but I don’t know if anyone sued, or if the state took their tax exemption like Bob Jones U. or civil marriage licensing privileges or whatever.

I didn’t mean to come across like all independent Baptists were into this, it is undoubtedly only a very small %. Apologies.

Freegards


81 posted on 06/30/2015 12:11:05 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dware
No, you are missing the point. "Interfaith couples" are protected by the First Amendment, just as same-sex couples are now protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. That means they are protected from discrimination by the Government. No one is protected by the Constitution from any kind of discrimination by private parties; such protection exists only where there is legislation in force to that effect.

No federal legislation treats homosexuals as a protected class for any purpose. A few states have legislation treating homosexuals as a protected class for purposes of "public accommodations" (which is why there have been a small handful of suits against bakers and florists), but none of those state laws cover churches (and any legislation that attempted to tell churches who they must marry would be struck down as unconstitutional under the First Amendment).

My bet stands.

82 posted on 06/30/2015 12:12:26 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: CityCenter
It changes nothing.

Lol. You're funny. Wrong, but funny.

83 posted on 06/30/2015 12:12:33 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: allendale
Kennedy has made it clear that at this time, he will not entertain efforts by individuals or the government to coerce religious institutions or clergy.

Not really. He made it clear that churches may advocate for biblical marriage, but he fell well short of saying they may freely exercise their religion to refuse participation in homosexual sham marriage.

84 posted on 06/30/2015 12:12:37 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
No one is protected by the Constitution from any kind of discrimination by private parties

Tell that to business (or churches) that have race-segregated restrooms.

85 posted on 06/30/2015 12:14:37 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: dware
Tell that to business (or churches) that have race-segregated restrooms.

Race-segregated restrooms are prohibited by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, not by the Constitution, which is why they were legal before 1964, despite the Supreme Court's decision ten years earlier that segregation by the Government was unconstitutional.

86 posted on 06/30/2015 12:28:36 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

So you can see precisely where we are headed, yet you can’t seem to grasp the concept that churches have a right to be fearful in this.


87 posted on 06/30/2015 12:38:04 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: SandyInSeattle
The problem will be when they seek out, target, and harass a minister they KNOW objects.

And there you have it. This entire "gay marriage" effort is just one of a multi-pronged attack on the Judeo-Christian underpinnings of this country.

My guess is that most gays couldn't care less about getting married. They do however have great fun in rubbing the noses of the orthodox in the filthy results of their political activism.

Said another way: after finally gaining access to a beloved historical landmark, they are setting it ablaze just to watch it burn - to the delight of their spiritual father...

88 posted on 06/30/2015 1:19:54 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: dragonblustar

“The real goal is to destroy marriage.”

Agreed - see my last.


89 posted on 06/30/2015 1:26:12 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: dware

I’m not wrong. The world is just as fallen today as I was a week ago. Christian have always and are still persecuted. The good news is out side wins and God is in control of it all.


90 posted on 06/30/2015 2:13:58 PM PDT by CityCenter (Walker, Cruz in any order.)
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To: CityCenter

Excuse the typos on that, eating lunch.

What I mean to say is we can only truly lose if we give up hope and fail to see the good God is doing in the midst of all this chaos. And truly, we have no idea what will and can happen as a result of these decisions. Politically, all it would take is a good conservative President appointing 1-2 good conservatives judges to the court and away we go. So instead if wallowing in predictions of doom and gloom, set that energy toward other, positive goals. And pray.


91 posted on 06/30/2015 2:21:16 PM PDT by CityCenter (Walker, Cruz in any order.)
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To: FiddlePig
In my church couples must submit to pre-marital counseling if they want a church wedding.

Both my wife and I had been widowed. At the time of our wedding she was 61 and I was 69 years old.

When we went for our premarital counseling, we had to sign a paper that said we would accept any children that God would send us. We laughed, but signed it anyway. So far He hasn't seen fit to send us any.

92 posted on 06/30/2015 3:35:20 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: kenmcg
"Note to the Marxist Pope; ex-communicate any Catholic who officiates at a same sex wedding. Of course it’s what he should do but he won’t just as Catholic politicians who support abortion receive Communion."

Are we talking about the same pope who, when speaking about atheists, said,"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class!"?

Is this the same pope who said,"When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem…they’re our brothers."?

Gee, I'm thinking he will probably sit on his holy a44s and pretend he can ignore it for a while. After all, it's been almost 20 years since the pedophilia problem was exposed and he's just now getting around to addressing some of the persons who so nicely covered up for the perverts involved. Oh, and how about before he condemns capitalism, maybe he could donate the proceeds from a sale of priceless art stored under the Vatican or give up some of the mother church's trillions in real estate?

93 posted on 06/30/2015 4:48:15 PM PDT by scottiemom (As a retired Texas public school teacher, I highly recommend private school)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Anyone who gets an Online Certificate making them a Minister in the Church of Whatever Floats Your Boat.”

LOLOL. I’m sorry, but I’m crying I’m laughing so hard.....lolol....a minsiter in the church of whatever floats your boat? I almost just choked on a Frito. lolol.


94 posted on 06/30/2015 6:20:16 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: ourworldawry

Now you have me thinking I should Copyright the Name of my New Church. LOL

I hope you’re OK. If there is another Frito Tragedy, the Supreme Court might gut another Amendment.


95 posted on 06/30/2015 6:30:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Erections have Consequences, just ask Obama's Parents. Oh wait, they're Dead.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Now you have me thinking I should Copyright the Name of my New Church. LOL”

LOL. A church with a name like that IS the copyright. So, congrats! lol.


96 posted on 06/30/2015 11:36:31 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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