Posted on 08/09/2015 11:05:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
Isn’t there a Bible verse that states even a sparrow that falls from the sky is noticed by God?
What’s your point? He sees me eating steak, fried chicken, and BACON. I don’t remember any Bible verses telling me to be a vegan.
Wait, is that the same part of the Bible that tells us to feed the poor, clothe the naked, and give drink to the thirsty by having government send goons to take our money at gunpoint? Liberalizations, chapter 7?
The two are not mutually exclusive, and as FaithPresses says God has instructed us in both matters.
You can have a heart big enough to care about ALL living creatures.
I can’t watch the PP videos past the first one because it almost made me puke. It also makes me angry.
I also can not watch an animal mistreated for the same reason. An animal killed cleanly, and humanely for the purpose of food, or to stop the animal’s suffering, no issue with that at all.
The fact that I was raised with the concern over the welfare of “dumb” animals, I believe is what makes me so angry over abortion.
That child in the womb is just as helpless.
It might be “foolish” or “pollyannish” (word ?) but I believe some of us are instinctively protective of all weaker than us.
Who gives a crap?
Until we stop the murder and part sale of human babies any moron who wastes time on something as relatively inconsequential deserves mockery, and nothing else.
And make no mistake, there is the only class of human being (other than the aforementioned morons) wasting time on this issue at this point are the twisted and evil.
DRINK!
DRINK!
Never did I indicate that the two were mutually exclusive.
But one has to be either foolish or evil not to acknowledge that the slaughter of unborn children is a crisis that chicken farming is not and can never be.
When your mortgage is three months in arrears and your car payment is late it is not the time to go get an expensive manicure and hair style. Some things are not and can not be at similar levels of importance.
I see where you’re coming from, but disagree that it is not relevant. God tells us how to live, not just what not to do. His own Word says someone who is righteous will have regard for the lives of his beasts. That doesn’t mean not slaughtering them for food, but taking appropriate care of them, and not needlessly making them suffer. Part of God’s Word can’t be ignored for the sake of another. One could list a great many “minor” sins and say they pale in comparison to the legalized killing of the unborn, so we shouldn’t spend time on them, but that would not be right, because all sin separates us from God.
As Jews say, God gave them a method of slaughter that was most humane to the animals.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/222241/jewish/Why-Do-Jews-Practice-Shechita.htm
But again, we have to consider that the chief reason for God wanting people not to inflict unnecessary suffering on animals is that it either hardens our hearts, or shows our hardened heart. The latter was the case of the prophet Balaam, who beat his donkey that had faithfully served him. Balaam’s beating of his donkey was directly related to his disobedience towards God, in which he used his prophetic gift for monetary gain, and that resulted in his death.
There are people whose full-time jobs are to deal with these animals, either business-wise, or physically in their care and slaughter. If their jobs involve brutalizing animals, or causing that to happen, that will tend to harden their hearts and lead them to other sins, out of a guilty conscience. It will drive them away from God, if they must act viciously or cruelly. Consider that God chose to make both plant and animal life (and before the Fall, man and all animals only ate vegetation, which is a state of affairs that seems promised to be restored when Creation is finally redeemed). God deliberately chose not to make animals like plants, but to give them many features similar to ours. And it is clear that God made things that way because how we regard them in some way relates to how we regard people, and God Himself. Someone who could torture animals could do that to humans, and even if he doesn’t, can’t have a tender heart towards other people, babies includes, and also can’t be right in his heart towards God. And that includes inflicting torture for the sake of making a living. A lot can happen in modern factory systems of slaughtering animals that wouldn’t happen in the ancient world.
This is from your reply:
“Not relevant.
In any way shape or form.
Because I am not advocating animal cruelty.”
The problem with that is that there’s a lot more involved than that. Do you believe that there should be any laws against animal cruelty? People have been known to drag animals behind cars and set them on fire, for example. For you to be consistent in your belief, then you can’t believe in any laws about animal cruelty or their welfare whatsoever, since laws just don’t happen by themselves. First people must come to recognize a wrong and believe that a law is needed, and then people must spend time passing the law.
On criticizing people who care about the suffering of animals but not the killing of unborn children, yes the truth has to be proclaimed about life in the womb, but that has to be done remembering that we are all sinners, and only by the grace of God do we see the taking of life through abortion for what it is. The Bible says we are to humbly try to correct others, not thinking ourselves better than they are, because we aren’t. No doubt that someday God will change the hearts of at least some of those very people, and we are to assist in that. That means proclaiming the truth, but part of the truth is that we are sinners just as they are. We have just accepted God’s forgiveness, which was purchased through Jesus’ death.
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