Posted on 09/13/2015 11:44:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you for recounting that. It says much more than my links.
It should also be said that many businesses (jobs) leave the country because of union dictates (as well as EPA controls and corporate taxes).
Of course the bottom line is, that the country and the economy suffer, costs go up and it is we who pay (in employment and at the cash register).
Hey there, FRiend! We're FReepers and mostly on the same side on the big issues. Yes, we're probably never going to come to terms when it comes to unions but I do sincerely thank you for engaging in a good dialog.
Maybe where we differ is our age and locale. I grew up in a time and an area where unions had a stranglehold on a whole region. Ask anyone from the mid-Atlantic about the countless jobs lost due to unions putting once-profitable companies out of business. At one time, America was the world's leading steel producer. That entire industry vanished due to unions.
The gauntlet was down, and Lemuel Boulware issued a response. He saw a great gulf between the political ambitions of union officials and the economic interests of their members. This was a crucial contest, with “our free market and our free persons” at stake.
But before battle could be joined, “every citizen had to go back to school on economics individually … to learn from simple text books … to study until we understand” our democracy and our free market system. In his call to arms, Boulware was describing what became the education of Ronald Reagan. -- The GE Years: What Made Reagan Reagan
Being a highly paid drone does not qualify as entry to the middle class...it qualifies you for a nice house, an RV, etc. but, by itself, it does NOT confer social/economic standing.
By the way, fellow FReeper gunsequalfreedom and I had a nice, amicable exchange privately and so I share one more comment with both of you. He may be too young to recall the era when the tri-state had numerous choices in grocery stores, benefiting the buyer because of hearty competition. One large chain that had quality products and low prices, Kroger, was run out because of unionism. The work rules were so excessive that a low-margin business like that couldn't be sustained. Now the area has only three companies selling groceries where there used to be more than a dozen.
Bears repeating.
You’ve been enrolled in FR for long enough to know what “right to work” means.
What I Learned About a Free Economy When I Worked as a Union Employee. The author concludes with this tell-all line:
What shouldn’t be allowed is the special governmental protections and advantages that are codified for labor unions.
Freedom of assembly is something completely different and shouldn’t/wouldn’t be at risk.
Excellent and much more important than building a ‘wall’. The real enemy is government. The whole illegal immigration issue is just the symptom. Without massive government interference in American life the elites wouldn’t get away with it.
Eliminatibg unions means eliminating the freedom of people to associate with one another and pool their resources together in order to try and improve their situation. Walker cannot do this. But he can eliminate the NLRA.
Capital has the freedom to pool their resources, labor has the right to pool their resources. I agree the government should not be involved.
The Wagner Act and the NLRA Regulation formalized unions in order to give big business an advantage over smaller ones. Because of the NLRA, now unions are encumbered by a lot of legal restrictions like election monitoring, executive boards, finances, forced arbitrations, etc. It was a compromise unions made to become formalized in government. It was an alliance between big business and big labor in order to hurt thr little guy. It also eliminated wildcat strikes, enforced arbitration and other things unions do not like. Get rid of the NLRA, and well, some wildly unpredictable things might happen.
As for right to work, what it means is the union has to represent non members and shell out money for arbitration cases, etc, even if the non members do not pay dues. It is as far as I see it, an unfair legal burden placed upon unions by NLRA regulations.... Eliminate the NLRA, and watch unions bloom. They will have more members and grow much more powerful in my opinion. All I am saying is be careful what you ask for... True freedom means keeping government entirely out of unions - not making them illegal.
Cruz might be Vice President. Unless Trump backs out of the race. Actually I'm hoping Trump wants Cruz for veep. I want Cruz too, but I'm a realist.
Walker has already done it, so it’s out of fantasyland already.
Finally, a thinking man’s FReeper posts.
It’s way more important than illegal immigration which is just a symptom of government unionism. The real wall that needs building is between government and Democrats. Stop the money train and you stand a fair chance of regaining your country.
You might want to discuss this with CNN. It doesn't know how to 'bring back American jobs'. CNN, here's how.
Good replies, but incomplete. We don’t want murder or death, we want liberty. Does that come from government supporting one side or another? Nope. Better that government is small and stays out of the way.
What has happened is that government has come down on the side of unions. Forced unionism is wrong and always will be. Labor always needs capital. Imagine the carpenter without a hammer. The hammer is capital, so are nails and houses. That divide is false. Get government out of the way and the bias against labor goes away.
Keep your guns and your job is my motto.
“Right to Work” is using Marxist technique back on the cartels and for the useful brainwashed masses——it is like the great use of “Pro-Life” to change hearts to combat the misnomer Marxist phrase, “Pro-Choice”.
Those who control Words, control the perceptions of the masses. We have to take back language and control the narrative to win the arguments.
(Marxism is the destruction of Words/Language—to make words meaningless so people become unable to debate and know anything-—total chaos where Up is Down and boys are girls and children will be so irrational they will believe “snow is black” (Fichte 1810)-—what public schools do-—destroy critical thinking and fill children up with lies and misinformation to create useful idiots. (Purpose of public schools today-—to create dumb ignorant, confused people. Get your children OUT of the indoctrination system of “group think. The schools just embed paganism and satanic desires and ideas-—all neo-Freudian Marxist cr*P to erase Western Civ. ideas and Wisdom of the Ages-—for tribal new age minds of irrationality (Eastern mindset of serfdom/slavery and One World collective mentality.)
Awesome story and why FReepers are an impressive lot. America isn’t going to be ‘saved’ by some hero, it’ll be thousands of people just like you that will turn this country around... or not.
Excellent post and it’s the GE years that made Reagan, Reagan. There is no similar period in Trump’s life and every time he alludes to Reagan’s Democrat history I cringe. It’s a sick joke of a comparison.
Listen to these radio addresses written by Reagan himself and you’ll never let Trump get away with the comparison again: http://www.amazon.com/Reagan-His-Voice-Kiron-Skinner/dp/0743509854/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442228824&sr=8-1&keywords=reagan+in+his+own+words
Get these for your kids and kid’s kids.
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