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The Breakdown of the Black Family
The Atlantic ^ | Oct 4, 2015 | Kay Hymowitz

Posted on 10/05/2015 8:32:32 AM PDT by TroutStalker

With the publication of “The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration” Ta-Nehisi Coates has added an elegant and forceful voice to the growing frustration with the inefficacy and injustice of America’s criminal-justice system. Mandatory-sentencing laws, the War on Drugs, juvenile-justice sentences that seem to do more to create than deter criminals, racial arrest and sentencing disparities: All are ready for a tough national cross-examination.

But even in the unlikely event that Washington and state legislatures successfully adapt the nation’s crime policies to a safer, more racially sensitive era, the nation will still look around to find more black men in prison than it might expect or want. There’s a simple reason for that, one that Coates himself notes: Relative to other groups, blacks commit more crimes. To understand why is to tackle some very hard-to-talk-about realities of black family life. And on that issue—and despite his announced interest in the topic—Coates has been the opposite of lucid.

Coates puts forward two interconnected, but flawed, theories about mass incarceration. First, he argues that there is no relationship between crime and incarceration rates, pointing his readers to a chart showing two apparently disparate trend lines. The first line shows crime levels rising dramatically after 1960; the second shows the rise in incarceration rates coming some 15 years later. Because of the 15-year gap, Coates concludes something other than a crime wave must have led Americans to lock up so many black men after 1975. “Imprisonment rates actually fell from the 1960s through the early ’70s,” he writes “even as violent crime increased … The incarceration rate rose independent of crime—but not of criminal-justice policy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 10/05/2015 8:32:32 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker

It was probably almost 20 years ago that I got a call from a black man who was almost in tears. He and his wife had I think 4 kids and his wife had told him that she had gone to the welfare people who had told her that she would have X amount of money in the household if she divorced her husband. It was more than he was bringing home so she was going to kick him out. I was shocked. That’s the cause of the breakdown. My SIL is a retired lactation specialist and she told me years ago that the single moms would come in to deliver their babies and calculate to the penny how much money and other perks that they would get if they went out and got pregnant again. No mention of fathers.


2 posted on 10/05/2015 8:44:04 AM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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3 posted on 10/05/2015 8:44:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: Mercat

Moynihan issued his research under the title The Negro Family: The Case For National Action, now commonly known as The Moynihan Report. Moynihan’s report[4] fueled a debate over the proper course for government to take with regard to the economic underclass, especially blacks. Critics on the left attacked it as “blaming the victim”,[5] a slogan coined by psychologist William Ryan.[6] Some suggested that Moynihan was propagating the views of racists[7] because much of the press coverage of the report focused on the discussion of children being born out of wedlock. Despite Moynihan’s warnings, the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program included rules for payments only if the “Man [was] out of the house.”[citation needed] Critics said that the nation was paying poor women to throw their husbands out of the house. Moynihan supported Richard Nixon’s idea of a Guaranteed Annual Income (GAI). Daniel Patrick Moynihan had significant discussions concerning a Basic Income Guarantee with Russell B. Long and Louis O. Kelso.

After the 1994 Republican sweep of Congress, Moynihan agreed that correction was needed for a welfare system that possibly encouraged women to raise their children without fathers: “The Republicans are saying we have a helluva problem, and we do.”[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Patrick_Moynihan


4 posted on 10/05/2015 8:45:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Getting to the root causes:

And before Barack Jr. started banging, he stopped going to school.

And before Barack Jr. stopped going to school, he was lying to his mother.

And before Barack Jr. was lying to his mother, he had no father in the home.

And before Barack Jr. had no father in the home, the Dhimmicrats started giving Mom money to have kids and no dad.

And before Dhimmicrats started giving Mom money to have kids and no dad, Barack Jr. had a dad, a mom, the truth and an education.


5 posted on 10/05/2015 8:50:27 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Mercat

money changes everything...


6 posted on 10/05/2015 8:51:10 AM PDT by brivette
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To: Darteaus94025

oh, and no need for Dhimmicrats.

The party of slavery never quit, they just found another way: use your money!


7 posted on 10/05/2015 8:52:10 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: TroutStalker

The federal government is the father.


8 posted on 10/05/2015 8:52:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: Mercat
Another way liberals broke the back of black fathers was with money for birthing. A pregnant black unmarried teen would be encouraged NOT to marry the father of her child until AFTER the birth because the State would pay for the birth only if she was unmarried. Usually the young people made the decision to wait to save money... but reality being what it is... often the 'father' lost interest by the time the child was born.
9 posted on 10/05/2015 8:55:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dems want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: TroutStalker
The high incarceration rate is a symptom, not a cause, of the breakdown of the black community.
Letting more people out of jail will not improve life for the blacks either, it's not like the ex-cons are suddenly going to turn into providers.
Some may, most of them won't.

10 posted on 10/05/2015 8:58:43 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: TroutStalker
If you only read four words of this entire article; read these...
blacks commit more crimes
That explains everything.
11 posted on 10/05/2015 9:01:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Uncle Miltie

bump for refereence


12 posted on 10/05/2015 9:01:26 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: TroutStalker
Before 1960, when poverty and racism were by all accounts far worse, the black family was considerably more stable. Throughout the first half of the 20th century, the large majority of black women were married before they had children. Black children were less likely than whites to grow up in two-parent homes, but only slightly so. It was only after 1960, even as more black men were finding jobs and even as legal discrimination was being dismantled with civil-rights legislation, that the family began to unravel. It was precisely that unexpected disconnect that spurred Daniel Patrick Moynihan to warn that “the cycle of poverty and disadvantage will continue to repeat itself” in his 1965 report.

Thanks for posting... odd to find this in the Atlantic...

13 posted on 10/05/2015 9:04:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dems want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: Mercat

That’s what you call a perverse incentive. We thought they had learned better than this way back with the opening follies of the Great Society. I guess they hadn’t.


14 posted on 10/05/2015 9:08:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GOPJ

The poverty and racism ills that one can do to oneself can be far worse than what can be done to one by others.


15 posted on 10/05/2015 9:09:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TroutStalker
and that POS LBJ is never mentioned...
16 posted on 10/05/2015 9:09:16 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Darteaus94025

Interesting... did Mr. Obama personally get caught in this perverse incentive scheme himself, or are you just using his name symbolically?


17 posted on 10/05/2015 9:10:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TroutStalker
more racially sensitive

What happened to "Blind Justice"?

18 posted on 10/05/2015 9:11:56 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Chode

I believe it was JFK who said that he would have that [racial slur] “voting Democrat for the next hundred years.”


19 posted on 10/05/2015 9:11:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TroutStalker

Black Wives Matter.


20 posted on 10/05/2015 9:13:37 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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