Posted on 10/20/2015 6:31:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
Are you series?
I claim elenchus. Q.E.D.
Oh, and thread-hijack still in progress. Someone call Dan-O.
I didn't. Are you in favor of the legality of Marxist literature? Are you in favor of Marxist literature? If your answers are yes and no, then you're no less self-contradictory than I.
Did I miss something?
Are you trolling? There’s no way this is a serious question, is there?
Just on the off chance I’m not just feeding you, I would ask you to do two things:
1) Educate yourself to the reality of marijuana. The only possible way for you to ask such a silly question is years of believing propaganda.
2) Cease all contact with drugs that destroy the mind and body. Get rid of all the beer that you drink and swear off watching TV, where the drug that destroys your body and mind is peddled by drug pushers relentlessly. And legally. In addition, eliminate tobacco, caffeine and any other legal drugs from your body immediately.
If pot smokers can’t enjoy their drug of choice unfettered, why should you?
Dude, I've seen the effects of marijuana first h and. My brother was jailed for it, and it almost destroyed his mind and health. He has medical issues to this day because of its effects. HE READILY ADMITS IT!
And no, I'm not a troll and I don't drink beer or any other alcoholic beverage. I'm a Bible believing Christian who sees recreational drugs like marijuana, heroin, cocaine all in the same light. They are dangerous, they destroy the body, mind and family, and should ALL be outlawed.
And your allegations of TV being a drug, well, that just goes to show how far you'll go to try and justify your position.
Who's the troll here?
Actually, I don’t have to go very far at all. I just have to take a bit of time to educate myself. http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/5jcl/5JCL59.htm
Objective science trumps personal anecdotes every time. I doubt very seriously that weed alone was responsible for your brother’s downfall. Most likely, he had pre-existing psychological issues that weed exacerbated I ask again: Should we outlaw alcohol because some portion of the populace gets addicted to it and plenty of people kill themselves and others while driving under the influence?
So now you’re making assumptions about my brother with no knowledge of when and why it happened? That’s hitting below the belt. You’ve taken to making personal insults as opposed to logically discussing the subject.
Quite the opposite. I made not the first assumption, I made an educated guess based on what I know about the brain and marijuana and how it affects people. To say that pot destroyed (or nearly destroyed) his body and mind is propaganda straight out of Reefer Madness. I’ll also point out that it was you, not me, who brought him up. I wasn’t insulting him or you or anybody else. I was replying to a situation that you yourself introduced.
So, criminalize alcohol?
Anyone who really wants pot can get it already ... the only real issue is whether legal regulated businesses or murderous cartels will reap the profits. Shifting them from the latter to the former is the primary good of legalization.
Marijuana is classified by the Drug Enforcement Agency as a Schedule 1 substance -- the same category as heroin, LSD and Ecstasy.
In my view, if marijuana is in the same category as heroin, LSD and Ecstasy, then it should be and stay illegal and a crime to own it.
But you draw your own conclusions. I won't be drawn into a contest with you about the legalities of alcohol consumption versus marijuana abuse.
Marijuana is misclassified. There is no comparison with the effects or addictive nature of heroin to pot.
Opinion, not fact
TABLE 3.4 Prevalence of Drug Use and Dependencea in the General Population |
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Drug Category |
Proportion That Have |
Proportion of Users That |
Tobacco |
76 |
32 |
Alcohol |
92 |
15 |
Marijuana (including hashish) |
46b |
9 |
Anxiolytics (including sedatives and hypnotic drugs) |
13 |
9 |
Cocaine |
16 |
17 |
Heroin |
2 |
23 |
aDiagnosis of drug dependence used in this study based on DSM-III-R criteria.2 |
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bThe percentage of people who ever used marijuana is higher than that reported by the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse (32%), probably due to different survey methods (for discussion, see Kandel, 199276). |
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SOURCE: Adapted from Table 2 in Anthony and co-workers (1994).8 |
http://www.oregon.gov/pharmacy/Imports/Marijuana/StaffReview/ReschedulingCannabis-NOTES_3-10.pdf
Alcohol:
has an LD50 of 0.40% BAC, with approx 100,000 deaths in the US annually
Tobacco:
The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 4060 mg
(0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans. Tobacco/nicotine
accounts for nearly 1/2 million US deaths annually.
Cannabis:
In summary, enormous doses of Delta 9 THC, All THC and concentrated
marihuana extract ingested by mouth were unable to produce death or organ
pathology in large mammals but did produce fatalities in smaller rodents
due to profound central nervous system depression.
The non-fatal consumption of 3000 mg/kg A THC by the dog and monkey
would be comparable to a 154-pound human eating approximately 46 pounds
(21 kilograms) of 1%-marihuana or 10 pounds of 5% hashish at one time. In
addition, 92 mg/kg THC intravenously produced no fatalities in monkeys.
These doses would be comparable to a 154-pound human smoking at one time
almost three pounds (1.28 kg) of 1%-marihuana or 250,000 times the usual
smoked dose and over a million times the minimal effective dose assuming
50% destruction of the THC by smoking.
Thus, evidence from animal studies and human case reports appears to
indicate that the ratio of lethal dose to effective dose is quite large.
This ratio is much more favorable than that of many other common
psychoactive agents including alcohol and barbiturates (Phillips et al.
1971, Brill et al. 1970).
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