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Obama: Too many folks in our prisons
investors.com ^ | Oct. 31, 2015 | ANDREW MALCOLM

Posted on 10/31/2015 10:11:02 AM PDT by PROCON

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To: PROCON

Obama is making America a prison.


41 posted on 10/31/2015 10:29:05 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: PROCON

Folks?

Butchers, Rapists, Pedofiles are... Folks?

Why is this man still president of the United States?

He’s just a man.


42 posted on 10/31/2015 10:32:34 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Soul Finger by the Bar-Kays)
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To: PROCON

And too many folks that should be in prison, but are not.


43 posted on 10/31/2015 10:33:02 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: skeeter

There should be one more person in prison: Obama.

He should be indicted and convicted of identity theft for using the Social Security numbers that belong to other people.


44 posted on 10/31/2015 10:33:03 AM PDT by Oak Grove
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To: PROCON
{Waving hand frantically!}

QUESTION: If that's the case, Mr President, why are you trying to turn the United States into Cuba or N. Korea, the world's "biggest outdoor prisons"??

RESPONSE:


45 posted on 10/31/2015 10:33:03 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: brivette

chigroes


46 posted on 10/31/2015 10:34:02 AM PDT by old gringo
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To: PROCON
If we have too many "folks" in our prisons, then why does Obama want to bring the Guantanamo prisoners here, too? Won't that just add to the problem?

-PJ

47 posted on 10/31/2015 10:35:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: PROCON

There was only one man in history who used the word folks more than Obama.


48 posted on 10/31/2015 10:35:43 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Auntie Mame

Zero despises the United States and has made great strides in destroying our constitutional republic.


49 posted on 10/31/2015 10:37:36 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: Yaelle

You misspelled volks. :-)


50 posted on 10/31/2015 10:39:16 AM PDT by PROCON (A proud CRUZader.)
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To: PapaBear3625
I also have a solution.....respect. Respect for parents, for law and the police who must maintain those laws, for teachers for each other. Respect must be taught from the crib up as well a good manners....that would be a good start to solving some of the problems....
51 posted on 10/31/2015 10:39:31 AM PDT by yoe (Few things are more worthless than an unloaded shot gun)
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To: PROCON
I agree with the President. Case in point, Bernie Madoff, a nonviolent offender.

/sarc

52 posted on 10/31/2015 10:39:39 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: PROCON

” And I believe we can help those who have served their time and earned a second chance get the support they need to... “

More disinformation. Anyone in prison is not a 1 time loser and generally takes a series of crimes before they wind up in the hoosegow. The reality is Obama believes they are entitled to a 20th chance.The reason crime rates declined since 1980 is that is when definitive sentencing started so that the nucleus of the problem is spending longer periods behind bars so the frequency of their recidiviist criminal acts have declined.Now that Black Lives Matter has handcuffed the cops, Obama wants to compound the problem by releasing the trash from their holding cells.


53 posted on 10/31/2015 10:42:26 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: PROCON

Democrats soft on crime?

No way!


54 posted on 10/31/2015 10:45:40 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: PROCON

The rule of law is racist.


55 posted on 10/31/2015 10:46:31 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: PROCON
Every year, we spend $80 billion in taxpayer dollars to keep people incarcerated.

Suddenly he's worried about how much we spend.

56 posted on 10/31/2015 10:51:49 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (The only fiscally sound thing dems ever did: create a state run media they don't have to pay for)
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To: PROCON

We could go back to summary execution for looting, robbery, car theft, rape, and murder. That would free up the prison population and with immediate and lasting punishment like that it would probably lower crime rates significantly.

The fact is that the 80/20 rule holds through for everything!

80% of all crime is perpetrated by 20% of the population and of that 20% of that section of people, 20% of those commit 80% of the crime. It is that 5% of the population that clogs the criminal justice system. They are referred to as frequent flyers for their regular apearances in court and jail.

It is not abnormal for a person out on bond waiting for the trial to be rearrested for another crime. Some of those get bonded out again depending on the severity of their crime and the lack of jail space available.

The fact that in the 90’s we reformed the system to require minimum prison time and longer prison sentences to hardened & violent criminals that the crime rates dropped like a stone!Stop and frisk, Broken Windows and proactive policing works!

The loosening of strong policing in major cities is what has caused a large uptick in crimes in the past two years.

Obamatard has sicked the JUST US department on several police forces and created cumbersome regulations that punish police for doing their jobs. That has lead the police to slacken their approach to crime and look the other way. Why get involved if it will lead to hassles and possibly suspension, loss of pay, job or even a conviction for just doing your job.

Once again Liberalism and especially Obama destroy everything it touches!


57 posted on 10/31/2015 10:52:07 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: old gringo

I stand corrected.


58 posted on 10/31/2015 11:00:12 AM PDT by brivette
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To: PROCON
America needs a leader who is himself/herself not "imprisoned" in the "progressive" ideological mindset.

Such a leader might be able to look behind the numbers of citizens in prisons and examine the possible connections between Progressive control of the public "education" system and the number of youth in prisons.

Clearly, anyone who speaks out against the Dept. of Education and all of the other multitudinous Progressive bureaucracies that control the propagandizing of children over the past few decades in the name of "educating" them must be willing to be marginalized by the media and politicians; but in order to understand the increase in prison populations, one must look behind the numbers and the crimes and examine objectively contributing facts to the cultural changes which may have brought them to where they are today. Progressives seldom do that, relying, instead on whatever the current Progressive narrative seems to be.

Even as early as the Year 1886, serious efforts to make that link were treated badly by the political structure of the day. At that date, today's self-identified "progressives" called themselves "liberals," though not in the "classical liberal" tradition.

Examine the case of an accomplished man by the name of Zacharias Montgomery who was denied an important post in government for doing just that. You will read some of his words below.

With that said, those who love liberty must be willing to come forward to declare that it is better to be remembered for standing on and articulating enduring principles of right versus wrong, liberty versus tyranny, than to be praised by the mainstream media and so-called "progressives."

Here are excerpted portions of the words of Zacharias Montgomery in his 1886 Book entitled "Poison Drops in the United States Senate . . . ." Although his treatise dealt primarily with the public school question, the following remarks might be helpful to those who, today, are concerned by what passes for "public education."

Excerpts from Zacharias Montgomery:

"My countrymen, disguise the fact as we may, there is in this country to-day, and in both the political Parties, an element which is ripe for a centralized despotism. There are men and corporations of vast wealth, whose iron grasp spans this whole continent, and who find it more difficult and more expensive to corrupt thirty odd State Legislatures than one Federal Congress. It was said of Nero of old that he wished the Roman people had but one head, so that he might cut it off at a single blow. And so it is with those moneyed kings who would rule this country through bribery, fraud, and intimidation.

"It is easy to see how, with all the powers of government centered at Washington in one Federal head, they could at a single stroke put an end to American liberty.

"But they well understand that before striking this blow the minds of the people must be prepared to receive it. And what surer or safer preparation could possibly be made than is now being made, by indoctrinating the minds of the rising generation with the idea that ours is already a consolidated government ; that the States of the Union have no sovereignty which is not subordinate to the will and pleasure of the Federal head, and that our Constitution is the mere creature of custom, and may therefore be legally altered or abolished by custom.

"Such are a few of the pernicious and poisonous doctrines which ten millions of American children are today drinking in with the very definitions of the words they are compelled to study. And yet the man who dares to utter a word of warning of the approaching danger is stigmatized as an enemy to education and unfit to be men tioned as a candidate for the humblest office.

"Be it so. Viewing this great question as I do, not for all the offices in the gift of the American people would I shrink from an open and candid avowal of my sentiments. If I have learned anything from the reading of history, it is that the man who, in violation of great principles, toils for temporary fame, purchases for himself either total oblivion or eternal infamy, while he who temporarily goes down battling for right principles always deserves, and generally secures, the gratitude of succeeding ages, and will carry with him the sustaining solace of a clean conscience, more precious than all the offices and honors in the gift of man.

"History tells us that Aristides was voted into banishment because he was just. Yet who would not a thousand times rather today be Aristides than be numbered amongst the proudest of his persecutors.

"Socrates, too, in violation of every principle of justice, was con demned to a dungeon and to death. Yet what name is more honored in history than his? And which of his unjust judges would not gladly, hide himself in the utter darkness of oblivion from the with ering scorn and contempt of all mankind ?

"From the noble example of Aristides and of Socrates let American statesmen learn wisdom, and from the undying infamy of their cow ardly time-serving persecutors let political demagogues of today take warning."

So Zacharias Montgomery in 1886. Read his complete work at HERE.

Anyone who reads his complete volume will realize this Montgomery's ability to see the consequences of what his fellow Americans were advocating in the area of education of youth.

Montgomery's analysis of what he called a "parental" system of education versus an "anti-parental" system was backed up by analytical documentation from public records. Please review pages 19 through 43 for statistical summaries from those records. Make up your own mind about the validity of this official's work.

Such an examination, conducted in 2015, might be enlightening on the subject of this thread.

59 posted on 10/31/2015 11:00:30 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: PROCON

He just wants them out and ready to vote in 2016...


60 posted on 10/31/2015 11:03:03 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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