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Hot Air.com ^ | November 30, 2015 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 11/30/2015 5:56:53 PM PST by Kaslin

Via Grabien, skip to 4:45 of the clip below for the key bit. I naively thought we were (mostly) done with “climate of hate” stupidity after the left went all-in on that narrative to try to explain the Gabby Giffords shooting, only to find that Jared Loughner was an incoherent delusional crank. For instance, despite the fact that Dylann Roof’s motives for perpetrating the Charleston massacre were more overtly political than Loughner’s, the aftermath of that attack focused not so much on “inflammatory rhetoric” by the left’s enemies on the right as on the Confederate battle flag specifically, more an avatar of southern culture than a sharp left/right fault line. That was also stupid, but not quite as stupid as suggesting that any angry criticism of a favored left-wing institution is an incitement to murder.

But no, we’ve learned nothing.

“It is offensive and outrageous that some politicians are now claiming this tragedy has nothing to do with the toxic environment they helped create,” Planned Parenthood Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens said in a statement released today.

Laguens singles out Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina by name, accusing them of “using this tragedy to repeat false claims about Planned Parenthood,” and says it’s not enough to denounce the tragedy without also stopping their rhetoric against the organization.

“One of the lessons of this awful tragedy is that words matter, and hateful rhetoric fuels violence,” Laguens said. “It’s not enough to denounce the tragedy without also denouncing the poisonous rhetoric that fueled it. Instead, some politicians are continuing to stoke it, which is unconscionable.”

Now here’s John Hickenlooper stammering his way through a similar point, that blogs and talk shows somehow poisoned the already troubled mind of a guy who used to live in a shack with no electricity. It’s no coincidence, writes BuzzFeed:

This week, abortion rights activists are going to use tough language and modern political tactics to make the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Friday into a political moment they say will put abortion opponents on the defensive after a year that has seen them score a number of political victories against legal and accessible abortion.

That means abortion rights supporters using the word "terrorism" to describe what happened in Colorado Springs. That means confronting pro-life Republicans and asking them about what activists call "a culture of violence" directed toward abortion providers. And that means trying to engage Democratic allies in Washington to do the same something that prominent Democrats like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz have already done in the hopes, particularly, of turning a byzantine Senate vote as early as this week into a political opportunity for Democrats on the abortion issue…

The word "terrorism" is important, activists told BuzzFeed News. They're trying to make the case that anti-abortion rhetoric ties directly to abortion clinic vandalism and finally, to the Colorado shootings. "Terrorism" signals that the ideology behind the shooting was extreme in nature, activists said, and suggests a network of anti-abortion groups and advocates are helping to fuel violence.

Loretta Lynch, while not specifically addressing rhetoric, did call the Colorado Springs shootings a “crime against women” even though we’re still not sure as I write this why the lunatic shooter was inside Planned Parenthood in the first place. Anyway, the goal here, as always with “climate of hate” garbage, isn’t to neutralize actual terrorists — a real but exceptionally small threat in the abortion context — but to neutralize the real threat to the left, peaceful pro-lifers who have some political momentum. The same was true after the Giffords shooting when they tried to use Loughner as a cudgel against the tea-party movement that had just destroyed Democrats in the midterms. It’s a rhetorical version of gun control: The only way to keep innocent people safe from lunatics is to disarm everyone, starting with their guns and ultimately with their speech. (And yes, needless to say, Ben Domenech’s right about the grand irony that this anti-“violence” movement is momentarily being led by a group that does more violence to children in the womb than any other outfit in the United States.) As for why this demagoguery’s making a comeback now when it was comparatively restrained after Charleston, I think that’s easily explained: It’s a combination of abortion warriors wanting to go back on offense after months of defending themselves against those CMP sting videos and of wanting to prepare the political battle space for Hillary Clinton next year. They want to make pro-lifers suffer for humiliating them with the video expose, and they also understand that it’s never too early to rev up the “war on women” nonsense knowing that Hillary’s chances may well turn on turnout among single women in 2016. The “climate of hate” bleating is always only a means to an end. Identify which ends are most important at a given time and you can usually predict when a particular crime will become a political football.

Gov. John Hickenlooper on State of the Union: Full Interview


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: abortion; colorado; coloradosprings; johnhickenlooper; lorettalynch; plannedbutcherhood; robertdear; shooting
The rest of the title is This Planned Parenthood shooting may be a function of inflammatory rhetoric from bloggers and talk shows
1 posted on 11/30/2015 5:56:53 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Here’s the facts as far as I know: Nobody was shot inside the clinic. Despite being in there 5 hours there were no Planned Parenthood employees, doctors, nurses or patients that were injured or killed. IF anyone knows any different let me know. How can it possibly be an “attack’ on Planned Parenthood if nobody that worked there or got service there was attacked??


2 posted on 11/30/2015 6:06:01 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Kaslin
This is just another hit piece by the government controlled media....the Governor of Colorado is a poor Governor and the only reason he was voted in is because the people wanted marijuana on the ballot and they got it...the guy running against Hickenlooper didn't want the drug in the State, he lost....

There is a reason for the saying: “Rocky Mountain High” now....

It's a tragedy that this happen to these 3 families, and all of America should say a pray for these families, but remember....abortion is a sin....it's taking a life...if that upsets people, then that's to bad, your either a Christian that believes in God or your not....

3 posted on 11/30/2015 6:30:14 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Kaslin

The politicizing of the shooting started with the leftstreammedia&friends running their collective mouths before they had any facts on the incident. Of course, as soon as they were having to crawdad out of their initial diarhea of the mouth, they immediately attacked the conservatives that pointed out their folly by blaming the “hateful” rhetoric of pro-lifers for one of their own committing murder.

The left is at least consistent in their shamelessness.


4 posted on 11/30/2015 6:30:52 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: DouglasKC

They have not reported that no one was killed inside the clinic... just that no staff or patients were killed. I heard on the radio this morning that the young man was shot/killed in the waiting area. Quite possibly the same for the other woman killed.


5 posted on 11/30/2015 6:32:32 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I heard on the radio this morning that the young man was shot/killed in the waiting area.

There's a contradiction with this guys death. NBC News reports: "An Iraq War veteran who was killed in the Planned Parenthood shooting ran back inside the building after being shot to warn others to take cover, his brother told NBC News." (from nbcnews.com)

Says he was shot outside...then ran back inside. Doesn't make sense if the shooter WAS inside. Makes sense if the shooter shot him while the shooter was outside and then if the shooter went inside. But not reading hardly any details of this.

6 posted on 11/30/2015 6:38:58 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Kaslin

Bank robbery is bad. There I said some hateful rhetoric.


7 posted on 11/30/2015 6:45:40 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: DouglasKC

They know people were shot in the parking lot; one live witness has stated that. He was in his car and looked right at the shooter. Windshield saved his life.


8 posted on 11/30/2015 6:48:32 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I just watched a news story from a local TV station and it seems like the shooter was OUTSIDE, on the north side of the planned parenthood building most or maybe even all of the time. Everyone who was shot was outside, many were pinned in place. The way the news makes it seems like it was an attack oN planned parenthood.


9 posted on 11/30/2015 6:50:29 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: DouglasKC

He shot people who were parked in the PP parking lot; people who had accompanied patients. It was an attack on PP. Now, whether it was an attack on PP because he was a crusader against what PP does or whether he is mentally ill will be found out (we all know it is the latter).

Being silly about this is not going to address the issue of how we manage mentally ill people in this country.


10 posted on 11/30/2015 9:09:55 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Kaslin

Has CO had a good governor since when?


11 posted on 11/30/2015 9:32:49 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: DouglasKC
Here’s the facts as far as I know: Nobody was shot inside the clinic. Despite being in there 5 hours there were no Planned Parenthood employees, doctors, nurses or patients that were injured or killed. ... How can it possibly be an “attack’ on Planned Parenthood if nobody that worked there or got service there was attacked??

Has it occurred to you that the shooter might be incompetent (I mean practically as well as mentally)?

Did he ever case the PP office?

Apparently not. Because, if he had, he would have realized the level of security he was up against. Locked doors. Bullet-proof glass. Safe rooms. Cameras everywhere. Well-trained staff.

If he was going to wipe out Planned Parenthood of Colorado Springs, he needed a plan. Fortunately, he he came without a plan. He came prepared only to shoot easy targets, which he did.

The abortionists hunkered down behind locked doors in safe rooms, while the CSPD used their surveillance system to coordinate the shooter's arrest and their rescue.

12 posted on 11/30/2015 9:56:38 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Lisbon1940
Bank robbery is bad.

Ludicrously irrelevant.

13 posted on 11/30/2015 10:01:35 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Radio feed here from police radios as incident went down. Scroll down and read comments, too.

There is a partial transcript of some salient statements in the police transmissions here, far from complete, but what I could grab while listening and typing, too.

Also, one of the more interesting comments from the audio feed page posted in that post, too.

Indications from that are that most of the shooting (if not all) was conducted outside the building.

14 posted on 12/01/2015 2:00:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kaslin
“One of the lessons of this awful tragedy is that words matter, and hateful rhetoric fuels violence,” Laguens said.

So true - ironic he doesn't seem to see how the Left ignited the "knockout game", shooting cops, Black Lives Matter and We'll Kill any Sumbich Who Don't Agree, etc.

Funny how the one with a mouthful of manure always tries to tell us it's our breath that stinks...

15 posted on 12/01/2015 4:36:27 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I know you want to hope and believe this guy didn’t attack PP. That isn’t the question. Whether he did it as a right wing terrorist or whether he did it because he is mentally ill is the question. It is because he is mentally ill.

Once we accept he is mentally ill, and just like all other mentally ill mass shooters in this country, went after an “easy” population (which in this case happened to be a PP facility), we can begin the dialogue of dealing with our mentally ill.


16 posted on 12/01/2015 5:40:50 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: cynwoody

Thank you! Exactly right. We, on the right, are so desperate that this not be an attack on PP, that we are allowing the dialogue to be controlled by the left:

He is transgender
He is a pot smoker
He is a peeping tom
He is .... (fill in the blank)

Therefore, he must be a leftist.

Rather, he is mentally ill. And that is what we need to be talking about.


17 posted on 12/01/2015 5:43:42 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Kaslin
Just a bunch of f**king Commies. But they are dangerous because they control the media, the Democrat Party, the education systems, and the culture.

Quite frankly, they have a point about being fearful of armed American patriots, just like the fanatical Muslims do. There are good reasons the 2nd Amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights. Very good ones.

18 posted on 12/01/2015 6:39:31 AM PST by Gritty (The Barbarians Are Inside, And There Are No Gates. So screw the candlelight vigil. - Mark Steyn)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I will ask you if you listened to the police radio feed from the incident. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of the shooter that day were more anti-police than anything else. Please listen to the radio chatter. It tells a lot more accurately about what was going down than the media will.


19 posted on 12/01/2015 2:45:48 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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