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To: John Valentine

Did you read the article? Slavery was a states rights issue too. How did that work out?

Tell me, why did Utah have to ban polygamy as a requirement before joining the Union?

The first Republican platform wanted to banish both slavery and polygamy. There is plenty of history on favoring Judeo-Christian values nationwide. The fundamental definition cannot be different in different states without chaos. The states can decide age. Everyone gets older so the difference is only temporary. Things like that. Not the fundamental definition.

I like Cruz. He does not go far enough on marriage. I’ll take it as better than nothing. It is different from Paul, better than Paul, and yes, he is against homo marriage. That is clear. I don’t think Paul gives a hoot.


8 posted on 01/02/2016 7:04:06 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Slavery: ended with a Constitutional Amendment. The Emancipation Proclamation was good PR, and AIR it only applied to the rebel states. I think that’s the only element that made it palatable.

There is no problem with banning polygamy, “gay marriage”, or slavery. All that is required is that it be done legally and not by executive usurpation.

I agree that different marriage laws in different states would involve some chaos, but I suspect that there would only be maybe five or six states that would democratically adopt such a policy. They would gradually be forced to abandon it by their own citizens, or if not, the way would be open for a Constitutional Amendment. There is nothing inconsistent between limited powers and amending the Constitution. it is only a matter of what can be done, when and how.

Like you and Ted Cruz, I too think so-called gay marriage is an abomination. If it weren’t for the out-of-control federal courts we wouldn’t even be having this debate. But we are, so the only question is what is the best way to go about ending it. Presidential fiat is not the answer.

The answer will be found in the Great Unwinding or Unraveling - the undoing of the progressives’ 100 year muck-up of the Republic. It’s a big project and it will take time and a lot of work. But we’ll get there.


14 posted on 01/02/2016 8:47:14 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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