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To: cotton1706

I am highly sympathetic to a convention of the states. But I have a feeling in my bones that TPTB will somehow manipulate, bribe or blackmail their way into control...and then say goodbye to our liberties.


3 posted on 01/16/2016 7:11:06 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr
"...and then say goodbye to our liberties."

They're disappearing rapidly right now. Maintaining our current course guarantees that our liberties will methodically be stripped away.

4 posted on 01/16/2016 7:21:31 AM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Ancesthntr

I am NOT sympathetic to a convention of the states. The intellect of any American is not even close to the intellect of a Jefferson, Madison, Adams or Franklin. And the life experiences of any living person is so shallow and effete and FAR removed from Reality compared to the rugged individualism of any person who grew up in the 18th century, even that of the wealthy, who never stepped into mass artificial indoctrination centers with the Fichte/Marxist ideology pumped in night and day to warp all perceptions/Reality. Much less the embedded emotions by the sodomites in Hollywood who have been raping thousands of children in their satanic, drugged orgies (Feldman) and forcing their worldview (desires/attitudes) into their products to be embedded in our children.

Education was entirely Christian and Classical by tutors inside the Natural Family, and only later, after moral formation was any child allowed in any kind of system, removed from mother and father’s control. The ideas were controlled by parents; what went into the heads of their children was a Christian Worldveiw only with the ideas of the geniuses of the Ages, which created Wisdom to a degree that is absent today.

There can be no improvement on the Supreme Law of the Land. NONE. The Constitution has been totally usurped and discarded, since the early 20th century which was done unconstitutionally, and could be changed back with a stroke of any pen by any judge, if they had the courage to defy the evil power.

All unjust law is “null and void’-—the Nuremberg Courts stated that for God’s sake. We just have to get back to OUR ‘Justice” (virtue) System and not Stalin’s. Control of Words/meanings is how the Left destroyed our Constitution. We just have to take back the definitions of the actual Words in our Constitution and our “Justice” system and eject arbitrary, evil, unequal “laws-—which are ALL unconstitutional anyhow. Almost every law on the books now is unconstitutional. We need to EJECT them-—no Constitutional Convention is needed.

When a Law ceases to be Just (antithetical to the Constitution), it is “Null and Void”. Simple as that.

The Shadow Government, the one with trillions of dollars, has enough money to bribe and seduce every single member of any convention. And they WILL bribe them—or kill them. We NEVER want ANYONE to be able to rewrite the most brilliant political document in the history of mankind.

P.S. Schlafley is one of the few people whom I could trust, and I question everyone, but God.


7 posted on 01/16/2016 9:04:50 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Ancesthntr

I am not sympathetic I am all in, we are going down fast and there is no rescue in site, if we are going to go down we should go down fighting. I don’t see any other alternative this is exactly the situation the founders had in mind.

You’re right the enemies of our republic will try to manipulate but that should not be an excuse to do nothing as we are on the ropes if not down for the count on the floor, we must fight back to our feet, they are already winning, yes sir we are that close to defeat.


8 posted on 01/16/2016 9:23:10 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Ancesthntr

Here is where we are at:

Article V even if Futile is a needful step to take, otherwise we will lose the high ground.

1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.

2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.

3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.

4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:

5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .

So, do we do nothing and just wait for # 5?


17 posted on 01/18/2016 2:31:16 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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