Posted on 02/17/2016 9:43:23 AM PST by NKP_Vet
Politicians who were arguing against illegal aliens have often tried to soften it or take the sting out of it by stressing that they were for increased “legal” immigration. That allowed them to stress that they weren’t anti-immigrant, just anti-”illegal”-immigrant. It didn’t really help, they would get accused of being racists, nativists, anti-immigrant, anyway. Similarly they would often try to soft-pedal it by going soft on the whole issue of deporting the people already here.
I actually struggled with that idea myself for a long time. I finally realized, though, that the politicians can’t be trusted to do anything, including and especially securing the border, so if nothing else but for the sake of clarity I started saying that the answer is to secure the border, enforce the law, AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY. Anything else and you’ve given the politicians wiggle room to get around it.
Rubio makes that point himself. Too bad I simply don’t believe his sincerity anymore... But he rightly points out that Americans won’t hear of any talk about any kind of amnesty until the border is secure. Frankly, there is no need for it. If there are no new illegals entering, and the laws are enforced, the problem will resolve itself over a very few years. People will go home, or find a way to legalize themselves, or get caught and sent home. Some will find ways to evade detection but that number will go down every year until it just doesn’t matter anymore.
Cruz has always been clear on the border. He hasn’t always been a hawk on legal immigration, but we need to take a hard look at that too. If 40 million people are out of work, why are we bringing in millions more every year? Seriously?
“It was another ‘Poison Pill’, he has a cabinet full of them.”
The only “poison pill” that was mentioned at the time was Cruz accusing Obama of putting one in the bill. google it.
We have been over this time and again. He was trying to poison a bill the Senate was certain to pass so that the House might not. We were ultimately saved by the loss of Cantor in his primary. Cruz and the rest of us breathed a sigh of relief at the time and many thanked Cruz for the effort. The amnestyites did not thank Cruz for that but fought him on it because they thought it would kill the bill in the House.
A whole lot of verbal gymnastics going on here ...
R, Goldman Sachs, nuff said...
Because the “poison pill” thing is absurd. Have you seen the video?
Cruz is persuasive, articulate, sincere, knowledgeable, earnest.
To go along with the charade, how does Cruz present his case when he is not lying?
Besides that, if it's done without stopping the invasion of the US, it will set a precedent and it will never end.
Even Rubio said the 'gang of eight' proposed legislation said that it wouldn't be voted on ,
much less passed , with the 'poison pill" intact.
Repeat the lie often enough , and people will remmember the lie, and not the fact .
Make it fun --> right out of Alinsky : Rule for Radicals
Lies by two candidates doesn't make it true !
The most important thing I left out. That video — it was made AFTER — remember AFTER — Cruz’s purported “poison pill” amendments were submitted and killed.
He was explaining what he really wanted, what was on his heart.
I do wish JR would clean this place up a bit concerning all the nasty accusations going on over Trump. I know three folks that got just plain tired of it and left, taking their donations with them, all long timers like me.
“Legalize or make citizen”.
There’s a big difference”
Possibly the strangest remark Ive read today. No difference at all.
Oh that nasty lying liberal website “The American Thinker”.
LOL.
If you had bothered to pay attention during that time frame, Ted Cruz fought tooth and nail to defeat the Amnesty crowd. He did everything possible to stop it. He was “THE MAN IN THE SENATE” who was trying to stop the Amnesty crowd.
legalize or make citizen..
There is a very large difference.
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Not to me.
Ted Cruz was one of the primary people who fought and stopped the bill that would have legalized them. According to Sen. Sessions, the bill would have passed but for Ted Cruz.
He tried to remove a key provision. His amendment would have made the bill LESS illegal immigrant friendly.
“He was trying to poison a bill the Senate was certain to pass so that the House might not”
Once he started thinking about running for president his story was “I didn’t really mean it, I was just trying to fool them”.
So the bank robber tells the judge. LOL.
Jackals,he denies nothing,he says legalize them to work,not become citizens.
His amendment did just that,saying he is for letting them become citizens is what you seem to hear and put in his mind where he has been consistent forever against citizenship.
You either are a Typical Rubio supporter or a real idiot
Donald Trump has called for giving illegals “a path” to “make it possible for them to succeed here” so the can “come out from under the shadows.” He has proposed to send illegals home, but then let them back in, which is essentially identical to the touchback amnesty provision in the 2007 “comprehensive reform” bill.
I don’t care about the website, and you obviously don’t care about my point, which equally applies to both Trump and Cruz supporters(I have until June to decide who I will pick). What is so laughable is that if your chosen candidate(which one does not matter) is so freaking assured of winning, why post these ridiculous attack articles? All you have to do is wait until they are the nominee and be satisfied.
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