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What a horrible ruling.
1 posted on 02/20/2016 11:24:03 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Wow. And that is a conservative state Cruz mentions. Not really. Heck is there even a conservative state anymore?


2 posted on 02/20/2016 11:34:48 AM PST by napscoordinator
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This ruling could set an unintended precedent in cases of stung-gun use by police officers.

Cha-ching!

3 posted on 02/20/2016 11:35:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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Due credit to the wonderful Iowa legislature =>

It is an aggravated misdemeanor to carry a concealed stun gun without a concealed weapons permit. Penalties include a fine of $625 (and up to $6,250), up to two years in prison, or both.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/stun-gun-laws-iowa.htm

4 posted on 02/20/2016 11:36:16 AM PST by Ken H
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Self defense is to liberals the most serious crime that is not a Crime Against The State, even worse than thought crimes.


6 posted on 02/20/2016 11:38:51 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sonoIt is always better to stay away from the Gainesville area feccia.)
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Stun Gun, a Weapon that either Kills or Maims.

What is their rule on Baseball Bats and Tire Irons?


8 posted on 02/20/2016 11:39:06 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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As soon as urban voters hold the balance of power they proceed to outlawing freedom.


10 posted on 02/20/2016 11:42:31 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Bricks, hammers and baseball bats are equally dangerous then.


11 posted on 02/20/2016 11:47:11 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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And here we go.............


12 posted on 02/20/2016 11:50:01 AM PST by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.56)
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How long before we have to register our kids baseball bats?


14 posted on 02/20/2016 11:59:36 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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Soon knives, tire irons, and baseball bats will be included in the list.

Give 'em another 4 or 5 years and they'll declare the Internet to be "subversive."

Consider the source. IOWA is RURAL.

16 posted on 02/20/2016 12:02:42 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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It is simple. Carry a real gun! If you are going to be charged anyway, why not us “the Real Thing”.


17 posted on 02/20/2016 12:04:14 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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21 posted on 02/20/2016 12:18:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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Michigan is the same way, you have to have a CCW to carry one concealed. You can open carry it,though.

CC


24 posted on 02/20/2016 12:31:07 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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This will not stand. For years, courts and the police have claimed that Tasers are “less than lethal” weapons. The police, especially, adore Tasers because they can use them in many circumstances where guns cannot or should not be used, and the use of blunt weapons, like billy clubs, leaves a lot to be desired.

The idea that they must be licensed will set off alarm bells in every police outfit in the state. Because the police are more than aware that if *their* Tasers are licensed, then their use of them is controlled by someone else.

And what if some bureaucrat decides that they don’t need Tasers, because he, the bureaucrat, doesn’t like them?

Having an essential, often life- or injury- saving tool taken away at the whim of some clod is *not* a good situation, as far as the police are concerned. I don’t blame them.

Right now, I expect the police union lobbyists are bending the ears of state legislators. This is about as personal as it gets.


25 posted on 02/20/2016 1:13:58 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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It takes a village idiot..


26 posted on 02/20/2016 1:13:58 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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I certainly would like to see one of the 2nd Amend orgs take her case and appeal it based on the fact that the stun gun is an “arm” and is covered by the 2nd amendment. Proof that it is an “arm” is that police are issued them. They may not be a lethal “FIREARM” but the 2nd Amendment doesn’t specify “Firearms” it specifically says “arms”. Such that a knife can be considered an “arm” if it is carried for that purpose.

Instead of constantly harping on and whining for more donations, the NRA and similar groups should spend a little of that donated money on cases such as this, which will set precedent and REALLY make a difference. Argue it under the existing USSC decisions that have already been made regarding the “keep and bear arms” part.

Spending huge sums of money on glossy flyers and requests for donations, or even “newsletters”, while not being a waste, could be used for pressing the legal fight in courts against restrictions on arms of any kind. You know, that “infringement” thingie the 2nd talks about.

Why leave the fight to the few pro bono attorneys to do all the heavy lifting? Hire one of the cut throat white shoe firms to make a good case. Poor Gura can’t carry it all.


27 posted on 02/20/2016 1:32:49 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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“A district judge convicted Howse, finding the state had proven it was dangerous.”

There is a reason that “District courts” are often referred to as “Kangaroo or Mickey Mouse courts.” A high school diploma is not even required to be a “District Judge.”

More than once I told district Judges that I would appeal their decision to higher court on principle and they ruled in my favor just to avoid the embarrassment. Twice I turned them in to the Judicial Inquiry Review Board and had them removed from the bench.

The only good thing about them is that they cut the overload on the higher courts.


28 posted on 02/20/2016 1:36:18 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Better not carry a letter opener ...


29 posted on 02/20/2016 1:38:08 PM PST by Cboldt
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In a warped sense I can see where a stun gun or taser can be considered more dangerous than a conventional gun. Meaning they are more apt to be abused as they are thought of as not being deadly.

Example, a few years back a national park female cop tased some old man for walking his dog where he should not have been. I personally knew of a rogue cop that liked to use a taser when no one was looking. In both cases a bullet firing gun never would have been used, but a power hungry cop can get their jollies watching people suffer and never get into trouble.

The same applies to any abusive person, cop or not.

But still, I see no need for permits for any gun. Just well enforced laws for their misuse, and it applies to cops too.


30 posted on 02/20/2016 1:40:13 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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If you read the way the law is written, they are.

Same with pepper spray (though they are working to change that). People can and have died from tasers. They are not as safe as many assume them to be.

A lawyer friend of mine recommended never carrying a taser if you are permitted to carry a handgun for that reason.


31 posted on 02/21/2016 9:02:38 AM PST by redgolum
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